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50 50 26th Aug 2014 07:14

Is GA turning around?
 
Advertised today on AFAP a FIFO job with Ausjet based in Brisbane.
Whilst not exactly bare CPL, reasonable requirements that don't require one to be ex RAAF fighter jock or 14 squillion hour ex airline captain.

350 TT
100 command including ICUS
20 Night command including ICUS

MECIR and Instructor rating desirable.

Does anyone know of this company?
Is there a reason the minimums are so low, or are we finally seeing a demand for pilots again?
Unfortunately being one of those poor souls that cannot up and move at the drop of a hat I won't be applying despite meeting the minimums.

Go to it boys and girls!

Lasiorhinus 26th Aug 2014 09:10

Australasian Jet is quite a well-known operator across the country. The 206 job advertised is excellent flying, plenty of hours, and the company treats the pilots very well while out on "deployment".

hillbillybob 26th Aug 2014 09:51

saw that ad and it made me happy, still 100 hours too many but might provide job number 2 for some people freeing up first job opportunities for me

BlatantLiar 26th Aug 2014 10:06

One decent job ad and suddenly GA is turning around? Onya kids.

MaxFL360 26th Aug 2014 10:18

put the application in, any idea if there is a chance for progression within the company?

50 50 26th Aug 2014 10:36

BlatantLiar, the question was IS.....GA turning around?
Now how was that comment helpful? Oh and I'm 32.

Kids.

whentostop 26th Aug 2014 10:37

Forget the low minimums. Whoever gets this gig will have considerably more time than 350 hours.

Para droppers and cattle station pilots and instructors would be chomping at the bit to get a gig out of a capital city. Austjet have historically had a 700 hour min for entry level jobs. I would suspect the aircraft is under Ausjets AOC but the company doing the FIFO work isn't Ausjet themselves.

If I'm wrong then that's ok but I don't think Ausjet would do FIFO with a 206 (even though they do own a couple I think) when they have at least 3 PA31's and at least 1 C402.

Captain Dart 26th Aug 2014 10:56

They call themselves 'Ausjet' and the ad is for a 206 pilot? Yeah, GA is really turning around.

deadcut 26th Aug 2014 10:59

Now who is going to apply without meeting the requirements? Bet the chief pilot will love that.

BlatantLiar 26th Aug 2014 12:22


BlatantLiar, the question was IS.....GA turning around?
My point exactly. One job ad prompts you to ask the question?


Oh and I'm 32.

Kids.

350 TT - I won't be applying despite meeting the minimums.
Yeah, you're a kid.

Homesick-Angel 26th Aug 2014 12:50

Actually Blatant liar.. there is a slow upturn going on..quite a few ads appearing throughout the experience / hours requirements which means people will move up opening the door for newbies. Not sure if it will turn into the rush of a few years back, but there is certainly more movement than I've seen in 12 months or so just in frequency and numbers of ads and the word on the street i.e non advertised positions I'm hearing about..

A 23 year old "kid" didn't do a bad job in the duchess yesterday..

Sheesh!

dayzel87 26th Aug 2014 13:07

They do have Jets
 
I don't really know much about these guys, but a quick look at their aircraft registry listing states they own 18 aircraft and operate 21, including at least 3 Citation's (With their name as owner, operator or both).
They also have access to G450, Hawker 800 and Legacy 600.

hillbillybob 26th Aug 2014 13:46


Now who is going to apply without meeting the requirements? Bet the chief pilot will love that.
like i said in a previous post I am 100 short on TT but if I was only short on night time and PIC I'd apply with the caveat that I would get the time before starting if they were interested.

As it stands I think an application that is 100 short on total time would be quite rightly sent to the circular filing cabinet so won't waste my time or the CPs

training wheels 26th Aug 2014 14:35


Originally Posted by 50 50 (Post 8624853)

Does anyone know of this company?

Quite a well known company if you fly from Essendon and with quite an impressive fleet.

AusJet | AusJet is a highly specialised aviation company providing services to government, corporate and private entities alike, across Australia and Internationally.

gileraguy 26th Aug 2014 21:50

you don't chomp at the bit champ, you champ at it...

Jet 206???

Cessna 180 26th Aug 2014 22:05

Is GA turning around?
 
Power line survey all around qld.

Kharon 26th Aug 2014 22:09

If it does turn around it's only going to run head on into the pile of crap it left behind. Forward and take control; while there is some semblance of 'industry' remaining. As the Brit's discovered during the Blitz - living in a bunker is no type of life at all.

Wmk3 26th Aug 2014 22:47

I did some work for OzJet back in the 90's when I used to freelance around EN& ML, good operator & way back then there was more work than pilots sometimes.
Good to see even a small ray of sunshine for some youngin':-):ok:

Wmk3

Aussie Bob 27th Aug 2014 10:12

My guess is the applicant count will exceed 100.

TomcatAV8R 29th Aug 2014 08:46

I recently spoke to an operator out of Kununurra that advertised on AFAP, they had over 220 applicants for a scenic gig in an Airvan, I suspect out of a major city to be more than that! I personally know at least 3 people with decent tim (around 1000 hrs)one of them including Jetstream time applying.

deadcut 29th Aug 2014 09:07

It boggles my mind as to why Kimberly air tours advertised on afap. Wonder if guys with too much time will be knocked back automatically from this 206 gig.

training wheels 29th Aug 2014 09:45


Originally Posted by GipsyDanger (Post 8626652)
bear in mind that aus jet post the same job roughly every 2 years

There's nothing wrong with that .. probably due to the incumbent progressing on from the 206, in to something a little bigger after 2 years, and creating a new vacancy for the 206.

pilotchute 29th Aug 2014 10:38

Now why would Ausjet need to advertise? They must get hundreds of CVs a year.

I bet it's because the majority of the CVs that pass the CPs desk are 200 hour guys with no experience. Which in reality is fine for flogging around in a 206 but put an ad on AFAP and all of a sudden guys with 402 time and the like all come out of the woodwork.

Guys like this need minimal training to upgrade and usually fly IFR already.

What the ad should say is,

Min 1000TT
Endorsed on either 402 or PA31
Two IFR renewals
Instructor rating

That's what they really want! Problem is if you write that for a 206 job you get branded a w$&ker and rightly so.

I would guess the lucky applicant has a CV closely resembling the criteria above.

Beech58 8th Sep 2014 00:36

Anyone got any interview dates yet?

deadcut 8th Sep 2014 04:55

Heard they had over 300 applicants. Hot damn

pilotchute 8th Sep 2014 05:07

Don't know why they bother. Will probably just hire some friend of the ops managers brother/sister/next door neighbour!!

BlatantLiar 8th Sep 2014 05:35


Don't know why they bother. Will probably just hire some friend of the ops managers brother/sister/next door neighbour!!
I heard once or twice that networking is pretty important in this game.

Bones13 8th Sep 2014 08:06

Anyone got an interview yet?

MaxFL360 8th Sep 2014 08:24

nope, doesn't look good for those who didn't get a 2nd follow up email

Bones13 8th Sep 2014 08:28

Is that on top of the one advising interview dates?

MaxFL360 8th Sep 2014 08:30

yep. so i'm sure the lucky few have been advised

Beech58 8th Sep 2014 11:46

Aparrently they have culled 370 applications down to 70 and tomorrow they will be culling it down to 40 and then sending out interview emails

pilotchute 8th Sep 2014 13:37

All this trouble for a couple of 206 pilots??

deadcut 8th Sep 2014 13:58

So are the 40 selected pilots expected to go to Melbourne for interviews? Not on Skype/phone?

Square Bear 8th Sep 2014 14:44

Serious Question...

How do you, and more importantly, why would you, short list 40 pilots in order to fill a Cessna 206 job?

Someone must have the information wrong, surely.

Horatio Leafblower 8th Sep 2014 22:57

I am not associated with this employer and I don't know anyone applying for the position, but just a couple of thoughts from a Chief Pilot/employer perspective:

1/. If these guys are going to work remotely with minimal supervision you want switched on, motivated people. A CPL is not proof of that.

2/. This is a first job or a nearly-first job and only the biggest fwits have been filtered out at that level, usually at the flight training stage. There will be plenty of sub-optimal candidates amongst the applicants looking to get their first job.

2a/. There would also be people applying from the next level of experience with more hours and I bet they have only worked for each previous employer only 3-6 months and they're not listing their previous chief pilots as referees.

3/. A big pool of candidates provides an opportunity to select those with the best hours, best references, AND do a decent interview to filter out fwits. Persons in 2a have already been filtered by previous employers.

It might be "only a C206 job" but for that employer it is an important contract and represents an opportunity for the wrong candidate to ruin the company's reputation or destroy morale amongst their team.

Best of luck to all the candidates. :ok:

Homesick-Angel 9th Sep 2014 04:25


Aparrently they have culled 370 applications down to 70 and tomorrow they will be culling it down to 40 and then sending out interview
Apparently you know a lot more than most-What else will/can you share :}

MaxFL360 9th Sep 2014 04:33

got an interview for next week

c100driver 9th Sep 2014 05:45

So in answer to the question from the OP.

Is GA turning around?

370 applicants for a C206 job!

No it is probably worse that it has ever been.

plucka 9th Sep 2014 07:34

Very good and well presented points there horatio. Flying a C206 maybe thought of by many as an entry level job, but the employer still wants the best person they can get to fill that position.


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