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Beech58 9th Sep 2014 07:43

Thats the problem with people now a days they feel like they are entitled to better, I have a heap more hours than advertised but I will give the employer my all no matter what I'm flying.
I can also see the bigger picture as its Brisbane based with an excellent company, after a few years onto bigger better machines in capital cities.
Its all about attitude and if yours is ****, then you need to re think the career.

pilotchute 9th Sep 2014 07:58

Excellent company you say Beech? The company that shut down its Darwin operation owing hundreds of thousands to many creditors?

The company that owed so much in maintenance costs in Alice that it literally transferred its aircraft based in Alice to the maintenance company as payment?

I like the fact that the Austjet website still lists a base in Alice when in fact it pulled out in 2011.

Horatio Leafblower 9th Sep 2014 08:29


The company that owed so much in maintenance costs in Alice that it literally transferred its aircraft based in Alice to the maintenance company as payment?
Pilotchute - remember that old saying about not judging someone till you have walked a mile in their shoes?

I used to scoff and sneer as companies waxed and waned... and then I started my own show and I was directly exposed to the roller-coaster that is small business.

At least they survived, regardless of the traumatic amputation required. Good luck to them.

Running a small business is fkn scary. :eek:

pilotchute 9th Sep 2014 08:50

Horatio,

You can't just use some of what I say. They still owe a truck load of money to business's in the NT but hide behind the "oh it was a franchise, we weren't in direct control so we aren't paying you" excuse.

Nice people.

kingRB 9th Sep 2014 10:28


I used to scoff and sneer as companies waxed and waned... and then I started my own show and I was directly exposed to the roller-coaster that is small business.

At least they survived, regardless of the traumatic amputation required. Good luck to them.
There's a big difference between "roller-coaster" small business and flat out insolvent trading.

While I don't know the specifics of the company in this case, and it may not necessarily apply here, there are plenty of examples of dodgy companies that end up severely affecting or ruining others because of continued insolvent trading and taking up further credit from unknowing industry providers acting in good faith, when they know perfectly well they will never be able to pay the money back. These types are reprehensible and flat out should be prosecuted and the directors held liable for criminal fraud. If only ASIC actually had the time and resources.

I've seen this happen plenty in GA.

Square Bear 9th Sep 2014 10:35

Horatio

not suggesting at all that a company should be looking to hire the best person for them, just that shortlisting and interviewing 40 should be considered somewhat over the top, (if that is the case, hence the question.

Goodness, if you can't cull the applications down to 6 or so (or even a dozen if you are so minded) something is wrong.

Doesn't word of mouth work these days?

versado 9th Sep 2014 10:59

Ausjet interviews
 
Between 16th and 19th September.

Does anyone know any CURRENT facts about the company and potential progression (if any) from that C206? All the guys I know of moved on a few years ago and they were not too impressed with the company back then...

Thanks for any input as I need to make a decision if to bother going to the interview or not.

pineappledaz 10th Sep 2014 03:57

Versado
 
Versado...really..surely this has to be a wind up of some sorts.

If not then why did you apply?? You aren't even in and you already want to fly something else. Not going to the interview is just downright disrespectful to Ausjet staff and to everyone that applied.

I know someone that worked there and loved it..maybe coz he just got on with the job, did the best he could and didn't expect anything.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::ugh::mad::mad:

Mach E Avelli 10th Sep 2014 05:22

Pieapple, how is not attending an interview 'downright disrespectful'? It could only be considered disrespectful if the potential employer paid travel costs for shortlisted candidates to attend the interview. As if.....
In the good old days, such 'respect' was typically accorded potential employees. Companies were just as keen to create a good impression as were the candidates. Many of my generation never paid to attend an interview. Because they were paying, companies were quite diligent in preparing their shortlists, so at worst if you got to the interview you had a better than even chance of getting the job. Now it seems they run rough shod over young guys and gals, just because they can.
Respect should be mutual.

Ausjet GM 10th Sep 2014 13:31

Thank You
 
Dear All,
Thank you for an interesting read. Thank you to the 400 applicants for the Eight fulltime positions that we have available to our humble advert for the first time on the AFAP website.
We pride ourselves on a thorough process to attract the right candidates and will welcome new team members to the fantastic crew that are currently employed and enjoying their flying positions. Obviously it would be idealistic to offer everyone a position however one has to be a realist.
We trust that the new candidates will compliment the 700 + pilots that our company has had the pleasure of employing throughout our 20+ year history.
We appreciate that we can never satisfy everyone's expectations, however in a challenging industry we trust we may be able to do a small part to provide some good people with an opportunity to progress their career. The company realizes that to be a long term pilot you have all invested and sacrificed and we trust we can play a small part in assisting you to achieve your goals.
Enjoy your thread, despite the negativity from a few that try to tarnish the majority.

LexAir 11th Sep 2014 00:18

Well said Ausjet GM. We need to hear more from the employers in this industry.

swab 11th Sep 2014 05:53

Is GA turning around?
 
AusJet GM...you don't need others to "tarnish" your reputation, you've done a sterling job of that on your own.

Jack Ranga 11th Sep 2014 05:53


not suggesting at all that a company should be looking to hire the best person for them, just that shortlisting and interviewing 40 should be considered somewhat over the top, (if that is the case, hence the question.

Goodness, if you can't cull the applications down to 6 or so (or even a dozen if you are so minded) something is wrong.
It may just be there are 39 dickheads out of 40 pilots out there, in any case, it's their business how they cull.

triadic 14th Sep 2014 03:48

GA is close to dead!

Not a lot of support out there, and certainly none from the Govt....

deadcut 14th Sep 2014 06:25


Go to the interview if its your first gig
While it seems like a first gig position the requirements certainly don't seem to be suitable for a first job.
ie 350 TT, 20 night PiC and reference from a chief pilot.
You would be hard pressed to find someone with over 350TT who hasn't had a job.

Square Bear 14th Sep 2014 12:29


Anyhow GA is still going strong, this industry works through networking and who you know
Good to hear that wasathangi,

Funny how Jack Ranga shot me down for suggesting the same thing.

Seriously, if someone thinks you need to interview 40 in case

there are 39 dickheads out of 40 pilots
you have to wonder what group that person making the statement identifies with!!.

Agreed, it is the companies time, but it is also the pilots time as well, and that is just as valuable. I can't believe that anyone can see justification for wasting 39 pilots time for one position.

Ausjet GM, this is not directed at you or your Company, as I don't believe that any serous company couldn't cull down resume's to a more manageable number, I am just replying to someone who is trying to justify a process which involves 40 interviews for just one job.

deadcut 14th Sep 2014 12:31


40 interviews for just one job
Apparently it's 8 jobs.

MaxFL360 26th Sep 2014 01:57

anyone heard anything?

Bravotwo 15th Oct 2015 05:05

Nice to see that these guys are advertising once more. Threw my hat in the ring again, this time with higher TT (500). Must be good internal progression onto twins (and jets?). I also note they have a few more locations on their website! Seems like an appealing gig especially with the Brisbane base. Has anyone heard anything back yet? Or is it too soon?

TomcatAV8R 22nd Oct 2015 09:02

Just curious if anyone has heard back?


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