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Tankengine 23rd Apr 2018 22:36


Originally Posted by Defenestrator (Post 10128130)
This “PB” legend. Wouldn’t happen to be a long streak of nothingness that has graced the halls of Archerfield for many years after pretty much failing at every endeavour, or being a fundamental cause in the failure, of many organisations over the years? Ex CAA, ex RAAF try hard/wanna be with little to contribute other than an ego and delusions of grandeur? I’ve not come across a bigger industry bottom feeder. Has a firm hold on the title of the greatest tool I’ve met in the industry (and I’ve been here a while). AF would be wise to cut ties with the clown if it’s the bloke I’m thinking of. The company culture would struggle and ultimately fail where there’s any involvement from this winner. No good will ever come from any arrangement with him. His ego has been writing cheques that his limited ability simply cannot cash for a long time. I’ve not known anyone in my nearly 30 years in this industry to be so universally disliked.

I don’t know if you have the right person (sounds like it though). PB is not ex CAA or ex RAAF, don’t let the flying suit fool you!

Ixixly 23rd Apr 2018 23:44

Yeah, pretty sure PB isn't Ex-RAAF, I do remember him being involved in the Air Force Cadets though in Brisbane, so possibly he's been misrepresenting himself to everyone.

Couldn't agree more with everyones sentiments, a more universally disliked man I have not heard of in Aviation other than perhaps Alan Joyce.

outnabout 24th Apr 2018 00:38

Just an observation - I haven’t seen too many GA organisations stay in business after a fatality...

Bend alot 24th Apr 2018 01:20

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=191


https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...aair200003949/


not 100% on the second. But there is that missing MAF GA8 up that way too.

Buswinker 24th Apr 2018 01:52

Scare frontier had a fatal in 2001 as well so if they were the sort of outfit to be put off by that sort of thing they’d be long gone by now!!

I’m not able to post a link but there is a PPRune thread on the matter, “Lake Evella crash findings”. Organisational safety culture was roundly criticised IIRC

Corvallis 1st May 2018 06:43

Back up and running now
 
just heard they have found a cp and back in business now. Hope it goes well for them now.

Pilotette 1st May 2018 11:52


Originally Posted by Corvallis (Post 10134876)
just heard they have found a cp and back in business now. Hope it goes well for them now.

Same here, although I’ve heard they’ve lost a large number of their pilots in the process? Only a few willing to wait it out.

Archie Bargy 4th May 2018 00:12

Top End - frontier grounded?
 
Reading this forum for a while, but I need to confirm a rumour.

Rumour has it that Air Frontier isn't flying due to having lost their chief pilot. Anything to substantiate the rumour and when they will be flying again? Perhaps Darwin pilots could go and have a look.

megle2 4th May 2018 04:14

I think this has been resolved - try here
http://www.pprune.org/pacific-genera...ier-air-3.html

or did the new CP trip up

Buswinker 4th May 2018 23:48

The way I heard it, CP left, another CP was recruited who also left after not much time in the job hence the grounding

The job has gone from AFAP though so maybe they have been successful? That or they’ve decided to call it a day?

Corvallis 5th May 2018 01:48

How long will this cp last.

Duck Pilot 5th May 2018 07:20

Their dedicated clientele were sitting out the front the other day looking pretty keen to go back home.

Archie Bargy 5th May 2018 13:16

Ok, still unconfirmed then.

With two (or now three?) looking for a Chief Pilot how will this end...? 1. Northern Territory Air Services 2. ChartAir 3. Air Frontier?

Acc. AFAP

Pilotette 6th May 2018 03:08

We did a few flights for them while they were grounded but they’re back in the air again now.

Ixixly 6th May 2018 08:37

Surprised those clients don't just stay with you instead of going back to Scare Frontier ey Pilotette? :P

Pilotette 6th May 2018 11:00


Originally Posted by Ixixly (Post 10139270)
Surprised those clients don't just stay with you instead of going back to Scare Frontier ey Pilotette? :P

I think they’re creatures of habit Ixixly 😜
Having said that, our machines are pretty flat out from now until Sept so we probably wouldn’t be able to facilitate them on an ongoing basis...unless we bought more machines...🤔

Archie Bargy 7th May 2018 00:02


Originally Posted by Pilotette (Post 10139160)
they’re back in the air again now.

Awesome. Thanks. NTAS and ChartAir still looking for a Chief? Interestingly both are Low capacity RPT operators, so higher requirements.

Corvallis 16th May 2018 14:45

new CP poached by airline
 
just heard a rumour that the newly hired CP has been poached by the airlines and will be leaving soon. is this info correct.??

umop apisdn 17th May 2018 00:33


Originally Posted by Corvallis (Post 10148401)
just heard a rumour that the newly hired CP has been poached by the airlines and will be leaving soon. is this info correct.??

Hopefully.

Pilotette 17th May 2018 22:03


Originally Posted by umop apisdn (Post 10148872)
Hopefully.

:} Not a fan of them upside down?


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