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Captain Nomad 23rd Jan 2012 03:27

I see my effort to get the thread back on track didn't work... :hmm:

Capt Dart :D

Capn Bloggs 23rd Jan 2012 03:36


Originally Posted by Wiktionary
Typically used jocularly, in imitation of upper-class speakers

Lower-class Leddie in the presence of upper-class pruners. :}

le Pingouin 23rd Jan 2012 04:23


Originally Posted by LeadSled (Post 6964683)
As to the question, why read back the QNH when it is on the ATIS --- dead bodies is why!!

Have you ever considered that maybe that is why we have the procedures we do, LeadSled? Someone buggered up.

Shed Dog Tosser 23rd Jan 2012 04:52

Urban Dictionary: tootlepip

Jackass.

Wally Mk2 23rd Jan 2012 07:02

Come on boys & girls calm down this nonsensical thread is close to 200 posts, don't let the Mods win by closing it:)

Radio calls have been made incorrect since the 'Wrong Bros' started flying & tried to yell at people on the ground. Ya can't change, ya can't fix it despite the rules & regs 'tis human to err, the machines are the planes we fly you can make them all perfect not the drivers so accept it & get on with the actual flyin'!:ok:


Wmk2

Capn Bloggs 23rd Jan 2012 09:27


Originally Posted by Urban Dickinharry
One who loves one's car and hair too much.

Commonly confused with a Jabroni.

Lover of small Animals.

Last time I saw LS he had hardly any hair (that was over 10 years ago). The "small animals" bit sounds interesting though. :}:}

Jack Ranga 25th Jan 2012 08:37


Thank goodness for spreading CPDLC position reporting
Hey dood, CPDLC is only to be used outside of VHF coverage so you should be able to keep listening. :ok:

nitpicker330 25th Jan 2012 09:00

Sorry Jack, we use CPDLC ADS all the time all over Aust AND within VHF all of the time.:ok:

As do most other international Jets now days.

Trent 972 25th Jan 2012 09:26

Jacks Statement responding to Leadsled

...CPDLC is only to be used outside of VHF coverage so you should be able to keep listening.
is entirely correct.
AIP GEN3.4 6.3.2

In Australian continental airspace, CPDLC is normally used as a backup communications medium to VHF voice. Depending on traffic loadings, controllers may initiate the use of CPDLC in some domestic airspace sectors. Other than the transmission of position reports as described in paragraph
6.5.1, pilots should not initiate CPDLC messaging within domestic VHF voice airspace unless authorised to do so by the controller, or an emergency situation exists.
What nitpicker330 says is partially correct in that the use of ADS (Automatic Dependent Surveillance) means we don't normally have to give position reports, BUT we don't normally send CPDLC position reports other than to establish the link, in accordance with the AIP quote above.

Jack Ranga 25th Jan 2012 22:48


Sorry Jack, we use CPDLC ADS all the time all over Aust AND within VHF all of the time.
Well ya shouldn't should ya?? You are a very naughty, naughty boy :=

I just thought Leadsled was up with AIP, CAO, CAR, ICAO, ASA, CASA, DAP, ERSA, EASA, FAA, FAR etc, was just trying to help him out :ok:

nitpicker330 26th Jan 2012 02:28

Splitting hairs Jack.
We login to YBBB or YMMM, send an initial position report using the thing then make the occasional freq change, some directed to via voice and some via data link message. ADS B is independantly connected and operational so no position reports required.

Nothing "naughty" about it, in fact we are required to log on, in fact some times if we are slow hitting "notify" ATC come up on voice and ask us to log on to YBBB/YMMM.

System works well.

Cheers

Capn Bloggs 26th Jan 2012 07:38


ADS B is operational
Identified?! :eek: Maybe that's why PRs are not required.

Jack Ranga 26th Jan 2012 09:16


Splitting hairs Jack.
Yeah, ok then, whatever floats ya boat. I can give you reasons for all of the above but.............

My original post was taking the piss out of Leadsled, (coz he thinks he knows everything) maybe I should have stated that.

nitpicker330 27th Jan 2012 03:52

Ok :ok:..........

PukinDog 27th Jan 2012 08:27

This thread is almost as entertaining as watching kangaroos punch and kick the crap out of each other on Discovery Channel specials about Oz. And I suppose I now know what they're fighting about. Carry on.

Cheers,

an amused Yank

(P.S. When constructing sentences, could the use of the word "whilst" please be kept to a minimum, or preferably avoided altogether? While it may seem proper, nobody really talks like that. Worse, it comes off as.....you know....British, which spoils the whole Oz-flavor thing for me. Thanks)

Capn Bloggs 27th Jan 2012 08:41

Well well well, a dog (Yank at that) lecturing us on the use of the English language. Whilst everybody is entitled their opinion, that is an EPIC FAIL!

Capt Fathom 27th Jan 2012 08:42


an amused Yank
Not really a challenge! :uhoh:

Jack Ranga 27th Jan 2012 11:22

Had a star read back tonight that went something along the lines of:

'Expectin' tha B_ _ 6, 36 oh'

No Runway readback, the star isn't runway specific so anything could have gone into the FMS, should I get all anal and ask for the runway readback or just hope for the best? Coz after all we are pretty picky here in Australia eh!!

And no you're not 'expectin' the B_ _6 you were CLEARED the B_ _6, should I get all anal and insist on a proper readback or just hope that if he f@cks up and flys the wrong star that he did say he was 'expectin' not cleared the B_ _6?

Near enough is good enough?

Stuffed if I'm going to be part of any **** going through those holes in the cheese!

jas24zzk 27th Jan 2012 12:27

Yer it can be a bit ordinary jack.

Heard a ripper on ML CEN tonite, student, tho (not picking on him). The controller called him 3 times, and gave hints for the readback. The guy was clearly asian, and his replies were very clear and concise, if only lacking the req'd info.

Kudo's to the Controller, who was patient and guiding for the student. :ok:

Pity the poor instructor who on the 4th try from the controller came over the top and rattled if off like an angry copperhead and got it all wrong.

The controllers reply had me curled up in the seat. " XXX ask your student what he said and add the bits he missed, then maybe we can continue"

Positively plum! :ok:

jas24zzk 27th Jan 2012 12:44

Punkindog
 

This thread is almost as entertaining as watching kangaroos punch and kick the crap out of each other on Discovery Channel specials about Oz. And I suppose I now know what they're fighting about. Carry on.
Not half as entertaining as watching quality yankee tv like Swamp People, where we get to watch half educated seppo's wrestle 'gators in the hope that one might actually bite back and make it really entertaining.


Cheers,

an amused Yank
Did you look in the mirror?


(P.S. When constructing sentences, could the use of the word "whilst" please be kept to a minimum, or preferably avoided altogether? While it may seem proper, nobody really talks like that. Worse, it comes off as.....you know....British, which spoils the whole Oz-flavor thing for me. Thanks)
Whilst, I have no desire to sound British, I'd also rather not sound like a yank. I am also grateful that I have adequate schooling that I can spell correctly when I choose too, and also speak correctly with distinction at the same time.

Lets face the fact.
The British are the best at massacring the English language.
The Skips and Kiwi's attempt to hold it to its originality.
The yanks tried to re-write it.

Ya'll have fun when you realise the colour is actually red http://www.mustangtech.com.au/images...con_dance2.gif

On ya bike old bean


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