That being said, the pay and conditions are only regarded as a negative when compared to the regulary salaries offered to direct entry F/O's.

It is still an attractive salary compared to that of your first few years in GA, working for peanuts, questionable aircraft and employers. Its the valuable experience i think in GA that will be missed

put it this way Blackbird...if I were you at your age (assuming no wife/kids) then I'd be there in a flash...6 years and coming out the other end with an A320 endo plus a few thousand hours FO time (maybe even ICUS time)....the world could be your oyster. Being single means you could actually survive alright on that salary. A lot of grads start in the high 40s now which is what you'd be getting after FEE HELP and Jet* deductions.

so go for it.

Pharoah

the 85k bond, minus the 21k sponsorship fronted by jetstar. so yeh about 64k over 6 years. Takes you down to 45K Gross/ Year, which is basically good GA salary. And its locked for 6 years! 6 Years working through the ranks in GA you would be finding yourself as a FO anyway, on 80K per year, with out a bond of employment or a loan

Can anyone actually confirm what the actual salary is?

Blackbird14 - fingers crossed for you. I tend to agree with what you're saying.

Oh on a side note I asked the interviewers about the number of places available in the upcoming Ab Initio program. They are making an allowance for approximately 24 cadets for the August intake, and could not be specific as to when the next course would run. However they were quite vague and stressed that this was an estimation, so I don't think that this approximation holds too much weight.

Is there any way to view the old jetstar forum? There was heaps of into on there and I cant seem to find it...

hey blackbird,

I know its probably diff for the ab guys, but was there anything you could actually prepare for?

@ fatalbert1

On the first day the aptitude testing went for approximately 3 hours. It had a 20 minute mathematics section which included some pythag, speed, distance, time, and other mental arithmetic, it's hard to be specific. There was also a 30 minute physics section, covering basic physics knowledge. I suppose brushing up on your mental arithmetic might help. The second day is impossible to prepare for. Having a basic knowledge of Jetstar would be beneficial.

In all honesty, it's very difficult to prepare for!
Good luck mate!

SR71

Regarding the fees, just to clear it up. What is happening to the $154,456 for the ab course, then the $124,456 for the degree and the $30,000 for the endorsement? Fee help only covers $85,062 and the $21,000 from J*.

The site says total a lot yet I don't see an overall total.

If the way I've read it is correct you will owe $202,850 at the end over 6 years. That would mean you walk away with $21,000 each year. I guess you wouldn't worry about tax in that case.

I'm sure I've missed something because there is no one on the planet stupid enough to sign up for the above.

Also has anyone actually been rejected or not received an invite for the first $300 interview? I'll be very interested to see how the percentage of applicants getting to this point... At a guess, 100%?

@ eocvictim

Jetstar have stated that they have received 20 000 online applications. I highly doubt that all of these applicants get through to the next stage. OAA could not physically deal with those numbers. From what I hear, they have had slightly over 200 reach the second stage. Grow up and stop trying to hijack this thread by creating animosity and being cynical. Otherwise this thread will end where the other began...
We are trying to help each other in the application process by passing on information that will aid others in the testing, not by making 'off the cuff' comments.

Blackbird,

Just curious, you say you want to keep your options open, yet if you go with the jetstar thing then essentially you have no options for about 6 years?

Curious as to what other options you have tried?

I'm waiting for a call from PSA in Tamworth to go to flight screening for the RAAF. At this stage that and Jetstar are my 2 options. I am also flying sporadically with Melbourne Flight Training at YMMB, although have not had a constant flow of flying due to lack of funds of late.

Thanks mate. Here's to hoping the ACP stuff is different as I haven't touched that stuff in a many many years.

I would like to retract any previously negative comments about the cadetship. I say good luck to everyone who applies, I think I am just envious. I wish such an opportunity was available 20 yrs ago. I know it is expensive, but no one here is going to sign anything unaware of how much it will cost in the end. And at the end of the day you don't have to stuff around with GA, and you get an airline gig straight off the bat, 6 years is nothing. And more than likely alot of the cadets will have their career with Jetstar.

Good luck to all.

Says the newbie who has no idea about an industry he is helping to destroy... Cynical, let's see you guys all jaded after 4 years in the RHS upset you don't have commands. Do I need to grow up too?

You want a Cadet thread? Start one in the wannabe's section, that's what you are.

j3

Well it's actually quite simple. After reading a number of posts and doing a bit of research of my own I believe I have the answer. There's been mention of "Blackbirds" and "24 cadets" ... presto there's your answer. Sing a song of Six pence which in today's standard is equivalent to 2.4 pounds (4.1 AUD) and a bag full of rye. Well we all know that rye (grain/whisky) tastes like sh1te. Hence $4.1 and a bag full of sh1te.
All the best to the cadets:ok:

OMG.....
 

Post the 89 dispute.... In 1990 an Australian airlines 737 F/O was paid around $100k per annum

20 years later......

2010 Jetstar A320 F/O is paid $88k per annum


I'm too far gone to change careers... but anyone who is seriously considering a career in aviation in this country is an absolute FOOL!!!!

2020.......... Jetstar 787 F/O $66k per annum

Get my drift........... Choose wisely folks

So you lot who actually have some hours under your belt are you having any joy? Some people said they got the knock off the 'privilege list' because they had too many hours?

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

If you've applied to this program and are unsure of the above then this is something you NEED to know. :ugh:

Half of these kids clearly don't know what they're signing up for in the first place!:mad: