Too right Pete!
Even under the current 'proposed' exemption cadets will require a minimum of 3000hrs on the SAAB before being qualified to apply for the PICUS program. So thats a minimum of 5yrs (thats if they don't get grounded a few times in checks, then its more like 6-7yrs). Add to the fact that many of the cadets probably won't be picked as being of the appropriate standard for the program. On the outside the senario is 2-4yrs in GA to get the min requirements of 500hrs Multi under the IFR! The bonus of the GA route is that you're able to go to several companies if desired or required. The Cadet route, you're stuck buddy! Lets say REX deem you not worthy with your 5yrs experience, 3000hrs (and only 70hrs command), good luck getting any decent work elsewhere! Cadet for life! FMC. |
The rex cadet website faq mentions requiring two guarantors. Would this potentially knock out a lot of applicants? Anyone shed some light on who could/ would qualify to be a guarantor?
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REX Cadetship?
Hey guys,
I would first like to let everyone know who reads this that yes, I have read all the other threads about the REX Cadetship. I find it very interesting that the overall comments towards the scheme is negative, but not surprising. I applied for it last night, but I was wondering if anyone could give me a good opinion on how competitive I would be for a position. I am 21 years old and extremely passionate towards every aspect of the aviation sector. I have had a dream to fly aircraft since I was five years old.... however I dropped out of year 12 and started a chefs apprenticeship with the intention of funding my flight training..... So far I have only had a TIFT and 3 hours of flight time.... Chefs earn next to nothing, but anyway I completed the apprenticeship and got a Cert 3 in commercial cookery. I'm very well spoken and not to come across as "up myself" very intelligent. I have not really got a good idea of the educational competitiveness in the applicates or the REX selection team.... Anyway opinion or insight on this would be very appreciated. Please don't flame about the cadetship though... Cheers guys! |
100% for effort but
No year 12 - No Chance. You should have completed year 12 and then done your cookery course. Sorry!!! |
Clearly you didnt read the requirments. You need to have finished high school to even get looked at in any job in this day in age.
They will most likly look for people with higher education like university first then work their way down the ladder. Why not just go with the flight school route? It's way cheaper, sure you don't get a job right away but I believe every pilot should start out at the bottom and work there way up. When you're 50 you won't have any exciting stories to tell :( |
If you want to have fun and work at the same time go into porn or making balloon animals. Almost everyone used to dream about being a pilot... it's almost a right of passage, like the whole 'dinosaurs phase'.
If you want to be a respectable professional pilot do not try to buy a job with a fake cadetship. Pay an instructor to teach you, learn to fly, hit the road, work, work, work, play, work, work, work, play, work, work, work then work some more just in case you missed a bit. You say that you "have read all the other threads..." and you say that you are "very intelligent" so why are you asking these questions? I'm not trying to be mean, just calling a spade a spade and maybe a wind-up a wind-up. Ferchrisake, FRQ CB |
I have entry to the bach of aviation at griffith though.... I did do bridging courses.
No offence taken, I did not want to come across like that. |
bach of aviation at griffith FRQ CB |
Rodnos- Unless your bridging course is considered to be equivalent to Yr12 Maths and Physics you are wasting your time. Thats what the airlines want and unless you have it your application will go no further. There were plenty of out of work Ansett pilots who could not apply to Qantas because of the lack of the above subjects.
Follow FRQ CB's advise and do it the way that thousands of pilots in Australia have done it and you will have a more satisfying career. As you stated you are only 21 and capable of earning money through your current qualification. The pilots that go through GA to airlines have done so through persistance and hard work and have had a lot of fun on the way. |
correct me if I am wrong, but Qantas no longer mention physics anywhere in their minimum requirements for either direct entry or the cadet scheme:
http://careers.qantas.com.au/Careers...-Nov-2009.aspx http://careers.qantas.com.au/Careers...-Criteria.aspx |
QF no longer requires physics (although could bring it in at any time again, so I would recommend for those doing high school still to do it) and there are some bridging courses acceptable.
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Anyone know of any 'acceptable bridging courses' ?? Mathamatics and physics?
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Here you go, Steve Holding. Good courses but hard work.
Dr Steven Holding - Aeronautical Mathematics - Aeronautical Physics - Aptitude Testing Qantas - Pilot Aptitude Test - Cadet Pilot Aptitude Test - Qlink Pilot Aptitude Test - Jetstar Pilot Aptitude Test - V Australia Pilot Aptitude Test - Cathay Pacif |
Thank you sir
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Could a REX graduate work as an instructor at AAPA and get the necessary command time? Media releases show that Rex has signed with Boeing / Jeppesen to provide training for their global programs. There will be a lot more cadets at AAPA than just the Rex cadets. Thus, couldnt all the Rex grads just become instructors for a few yrs - meet requirments - and carry on in RPT ops?
If anything, the senate enquiry may force AAPA to source more training contracts/ business and simply employ their cadets as instructors, with the rest spread in charter in the greater Rex group. |
Could a REX graduate work as an instructor at AAPA Before you even apply for this cadetship, think carefully about whether you want to be trained by people who themselves couldn't make the grade. :D Don't know if I'd want to cough up $80,000 to be trained by an airline's own rejects. |
Those who can't do...
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Slippery
I will have to refer to the Hansard by my understanding from the evidence given by Rex at the Senate Inquiry was that the programme is so successful that there aren't many 'drop outs at all' What if the Senate introduce 500 hours RPT to align with New Zealand? More to Follow The Kelpie |
This is the whole problem. The guys who don't meet the grade get given jobs as instructors at the college. Before you even apply for this cadetship, think carefully about whether you want to be trained by people who themselves couldn't make the grade. :D Don't know if I'd want to cough up $80,000 to be trained by an airline's own rejects. |
Well VIMD, you are wrong and 'Pete is right on the money. The only Cadets that have gone over to instructing at AAPA are those who were unable to complete the REX First Officer Training program. Some others have simply washed out and have sought life elsewhere. It happens. Not everyone will make it through.
The fantasy you refer to about cadets (the best ones) choosing to instruct at AAPA, is just that. A fantasy! And yes I have that on very good authority. :ok: On the subject of AAPA, it's possible that it may be in danger of becoming a $12mil white elephant! It seems that due to a larger than normal accident rate during training (mainly in the US) the Chinese government has banned flight training for Chinese cadets overseas. Oops! Perhaps that's why there are no foreign cadets at AAPA. Weren't they supposed to be there by now? :( |
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