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the wizard of auz 22nd Dec 2008 00:04

Strewth, I used to get $52PA for bashing a C210 around........ I don't know that I would be committed enough to drive for that amount of money, as well as being bonded..... Career advancement indeed. :ugh:

Wally Mk2 22nd Dec 2008 02:24

As long as you get pilots willing to fly for those sorts of low wages then the likes of REX will continue to exploit them (pilots). It aint rocket science here guys REX is just another employer with costs in a cut throat world & at the top with greedy owner/s probably. There is no direct answer to how to get fair wages but if there was one then it would have to come from the very people that created this situation, YOU, the pilots, the ones simply willing to accept their T&C's.
Simply put how does anybody live on those wages in SYD?


Wmk2

laxrox43 22nd Dec 2008 03:56

How long, and how much?
 
Forgive me if I missed the information somewhere along the way...but how long, and how much is REX's bond?

Thanks,
Lax

Altimeters 22nd Dec 2008 04:37

Lax it's $15,000 bonded for 2 years, IIRC.

PennyBenjamin 22nd Dec 2008 06:46

Great responses
 
Great to hear from all of you, very interesting responses. My legal advice says that i am not liable for the bond, nor am i liable for the $6500 in breaches of the agreement. I have been threatened by REX that they know i am not liable, but they will keep me in the courts just until i spend over the said amount - sounds like fun.

Great to hear that REX have such support out there, i hope you have fun working for old mate the gun runner Lim King Kong. If you read the original quote, it asked for details on previous cases, not allegations or judgements on my actions, but thanks for those. Hey it is pprune i suppose, and i value all your opinions. But remember that agreements work both ways, and i didn't make accusations about their breaches because they are not for public consumption at the moment.

Enjoy and Merry Christmas (do they celebrate xmas in Singapore?)

Led Zep 23rd Dec 2008 03:04

Stick it to them, Penny.

laxrox43 23rd Dec 2008 15:27

...the reason for my inquirey
 
It is sad to say that the pay scale at REX puts a lot of RPT operators (even Regional Jet operators) over in the United States to shame. The cost of living on the East Coast of the US is comparable to most major cities in AU. Although, I had quite the frugal lifestyle, I made it work. If I would move to AU to continue my flying career, and REX was the only way, I could make it work. Now, I do not agree with managements mentality, "Oh...they will get their time and leave, so therefore, we do not have to pay them well." But like I said, if REX is my gateway to flying in AU and truly "Living the Dream," (once I move on to greener pastures, naturally) I would definitely consider it. "Living the Dream in the US, flying-wise, is long gone. Plus, a 2-year stint really isn't that long. Just my 2 cents.

Lax

PS. If I really had my druthers, I would prefer to work for QLink. But like Mic Jagger says, "You can't always get what you want..."

Kangaroo Court 23rd Dec 2008 17:09

Oh no! Using the old American rationale for everything again...

Australia does not have 48 percent of the world's flying and we don't have a J-1 Visa program to get cheap foreign-national labour. The scam in America is not only do they know you will leave, they want you to leave so they can make way for more trainees.

The world is full of people who think the streets are paved with gold in America, which seems to be left over from soap operas of the golden age of television.

Regional Airline flying in Australia is not some extension of a flying school to provide air travel to people who are too lazy to drive. It is an essential element of the infrastructure of the remote and highly profitable rural areas of Australia.

Airlines should not be taking this position lightly. At least some part of the entire economy, by extension, is partly on their shoulders should they fail.

laxrox43 23rd Dec 2008 20:10

I agree with you. When it comes to America, all they care about is the "Almighty Dollar." How can we outsource work to other countries with sweat shops? How can we legally bring people to live in the US to work for less? The reason so many people in America are out of work, is because our government thinks this way.

I agree that regional flying, primarily Turbo-Prop RPT ops, are essential for the airline business as well. The smaller aircraft with their excellent short-field performance, and fuel economy, allow airlines to branch out into smaller communities. Which in my opinion, is crucial for business.

Horatio Leafblower 23rd Dec 2008 20:28

Kangaroo Court
 

the remote and highly profitable rural areas of Australia.
That's a new one on me. Where is this nirvana? :confused:

Kangaroo Court 23rd Dec 2008 21:26

You obviously don't know much about Australian exports. This "nirvana" does not exist, it's called hard work with associated risk in ensuring some level of balance in our exports.

You don't think mining takes place in remote areas? What about beef the majority of beef and grain production?

Without it you'd be importing even more food than we already do.


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