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flyinggit 18th Jul 2008 10:14

Good job for the "see & be seen" theory, when all else fails my instructor said look out the damn window & always have an 'out' until yr parked in the hangar! I fly by his words, works for me whilst I climb that fragile ladder.
I'm sure ALL pilots have & will continue to do so make mistakes such as the above, esspecially airline pilots, no pilot was born an airline pilot, they learnt like I am doing these days from actual experiences & experience can't be bought.



FG

goin'flyin 19th Jul 2008 03:04

We got cut off in the circuit at Dubbo yesterday by REX SAAB.
Sometimes it makes me wonder if they (RPT operators) think they own the skies.

Even after numerous calls back and forth they still managed to turn base and cut us off at about a 1nm final. Thanks guys.

Was going to say "my jet fuel costs just as much as yours", but thats probably not the case either, mine probably cost more. :ugh::ugh:

Brian Abraham 19th Jul 2008 03:16


Sometimes it makes me wonder if they (RPT operators) think they own the skies.
You come across all types. Many, many years ago had to deliver an aircraft to Kingsford Smith/Mascot what ever its name was in those days. Taxi to the Qantas hangar for the aircraft to be prepared for loading on a 747 and a TAA DC-9 started bleating about how did ATC have the temerity to let a GA aircraft use HIS airport and delay his push back. Maybe he had just had an argument with the missus.

zac21 19th Jul 2008 04:59

C'mon fella's, as Glider39 said, the guy in the Duchess apologised for not being on the correct frequency.
And, most of the RPT guy's are OK. Were not all pefect.

ZAC

RadioSaigon 19th Jul 2008 07:05


Originally Posted by flyinggit
Good job for the "see & be seen" theory, when all else fails my instructor said look out the damn window & always have an 'out' until yr parked in the hangar! I fly by his words, works for me whilst I climb that fragile ladder.
I'm sure ALL pilots have & will continue to do so make mistakes such as the above, esspecially airline pilots, no pilot was born an airline pilot, they learnt like I am doing these days from actual experiences & experience can't be bought.

Beautifully spoken flyinggit, worth the repetition. :ok:

QSK? 20th Jul 2008 01:10


Hands up who has NEVER been on the wrong frequency!
Unfortunately, I have been on the wrong frequency a number of times in the past but, thanks to a a piece of very useful advice from one of my ATOs, I now believe there is no excuse for any pilot to be on the wrong CTAF frequency.

Rather than simply relying on receiving beepbacks (which may be generated by another AFRU), the ATO simply pointed out to me a feature of AFRUs which does not appear to be used very often by pilots i.e. if you activate the TX button 3 times within a 5 second period the AFRU will transmit the pre-recorded station identifier regardless of the amount of radio activity evident in the last 5 minutes. His suggestion was to do this as part of your pre-taxi checks at a CTAF airport and immediately before making your first inbound CTAF call. By doing this you confirm 2 facts, (1) your radio is transmitting and (2) you are on the correct CTAF frequency for the airport.

Before this advice, I used to look up the chart, dial up the CTAF frequency and transmit assuming I was on the correct frequency.

rodmiller 20th Jul 2008 09:54

well said mate. It would be nice to start of training with 5000 hrs experience


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