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The Bungeyed Bandit 12th May 2008 22:18

Seen on SYD Tarmac driving around in a training vehicle with a full complement of willing students (alternative workforce) yesterday was the ex Ansett International EIC. Hope he’s happy in his new job as one of the many “Managers for Aircraft Readiness”. He certainly is in good company with the other goons who seem happy to sell their souls to the devil. I guess he still believes his often repeated mantra “It’s only a scam if you’re not in on it”.

Then again he still has along way to go to catch up to the Koala Smuggler from Vth Pod. He’s been flat out utilising his Cert IV training credentials over the past couple of months.

I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired!!!

wingers 12th May 2008 22:19

Sunfish
 
You are a cynical old an who lives in Toorak, complaining about making money, you hypocrit , Nothing better to do than cry foul about everybody, who really cares about your opinion, we are are democratic capitalist society, if you hve a problem with corporations making money move to North Korea, but you enjoy your Chardonnay lifestyle to much, you are unbeliveable.

And as for the rest of you i read implied tramac threats etc, you make me feel ashamed.

I have made my mind up i am happy with what i get paid, i will be 100% against you and will support QF and to hell with your thuggish tactics,

I too can decided what i want.... and i maybe the only one, but i choose to excercise my democratic right

I will not be part of an environment of implied intimidation regardless of who or what the circumstances are.

Sunfish 12th May 2008 22:34

Wingers the troll has now outed himself....and therefore can be safely placed on your ignore list. Thank you Wingers, we were right about you all along.

By the way, of course Corporations exist to make money, stop trying to twist my words.

What is nauseating is when they tell us that they exist for some other reason than to make money, as Mr. Dixon himself implied.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...rom=public_rss


He said the policy had allowed the company to invest more than $30 billion in new aircraft and add 6000 jobs at a time other carriers were reducing employment.

.....................and of course make record profits at the same time.

REALITY 12th May 2008 22:36

Wingers
 
Congrats wingers, I am glad you have made your mind up and exercised your democratic right.

Does this mean you will now shut the f:mad:ck up and stop posting your bullsh*t?

I for one am sick of reading your rubbish.

Let everyone else exercise their democratic right.

Go climb up M's ass and die. :D :D :D

JETTRONIC 13th May 2008 00:43

Was speaking to a lot of flight crew last night about our stop work meetings this Friday. The level of support coming out of the rest of the company is unbelievable. To all the flight crew out there thanks for your support and most of all, thank you for now spending that extra few minutes in righting up all those snags:ok:

I had a question for Mr GD, if it's company policy for three percent pay rise a year then why does this not apply to you and the rest of your goons.:ugh:

Oops there goes my phone again asking for O/T, sorry but I'm a bit busy washing the dog:}

Konehead 13th May 2008 02:13

Yes I have a question: What happens when the disparity between the haves and have nots becomes too wide and the little people can no longer stomach the rot, nepotism and corruption at the top?

Look to Russia 1917, China 1949, Vietnam 1954 - 1975.

Before you blindly call me a Commie, do a bit of background research. Communism was the vehicle. The people built it and then got behind the wheel and ran over the filthy rich and corrupt. The same thing is happening in the Middle East with "fundamentalist Islam". It is simply an argument between rank greed and abuse of power, and a fairer outcome for all, whether that be property rights, wealth or the will of the people.

The lesson lost in all examples is that if you address the peoples underlying dissatisfaction and exercise the responsibility that leadership demands, instead of using it to feather your own nest, then Communism and fundamentalist Islam, and in our case, industrial action, would not arise.

Short_Circuit 13th May 2008 02:32

I wonder why there is the "Strategy Map & FOUR Pillars" if the likes of G.Dicko do not follow them.

Are these company initiates a waste of time?

And what about "Bulling & Harassment" isn't that against the Cardinal Rules"?

How come management can ignore & break company policy, conduct business illegally

& immorally but we get stood down for placing a safety cone in the wrong spot.

NO more O/T.

(what part of NO do you not understand?)

lordofthewings 13th May 2008 03:14

You engineers are pathetic. Cant fight your own battles, so now your going to take the flight crews with you.
Still people doing O/T, on secondment, doing fly away work(ie toulouse)etc.The strikebreakers regardless of what you do are not going to make a difference, it is just some leverage the company is hoping they have against you..Your battle is with management, not the crews, not the public and not the strike breakers.
Cant even get all the LAMEs at QF on the same page, so you are recruiting others to do what they should have been doing forever.(ie, writing up snags, following procedures, using approved data and paper work)
Get some balls and you might actually win for a change...

Talkwrench 13th May 2008 03:43

The Voice
 
Does anyone know the internet address for 'The Voice'?

JETTRONIC 13th May 2008 03:48

Pathetic:eek: Mate, if you have not noticed the stench of what is going on is not just with us. Everyone is in the same boat that's why we finally said enough is enough. Were standing up for what is right and saying NO. It's trolls like you that undermine what were actually trying to do. But then it doesn’t matter what you say or do because the majority has spoken were all pi:mad: off.

Oww! There goes the phone again.......:ooh: Sorry, can't help washing the car:ok:

lordofthewings 13th May 2008 03:58

NO jetronic, no one has to undermine you, you do a good enough job for yourselves. Hope im proven wrong, only time will tell..

lordofthewings 13th May 2008 04:13

Goodluck to you all. Hope you can return the good days to Qantas and make it a place where people are lined up to get back in..

NAS1801 13th May 2008 07:39

ops! did I just add lordofthewings and wingers to my ignore list?

chemical alli 13th May 2008 08:20

people in glass houses
 
before posting on this site and slandering certain individuals for training so called scabs or uber management,just remember that some of these individuals have no choice.it may actually be part of their individual management contract,whilst this in no way excludes them from the brotherhood from which they came,please keep the verbal stoushing to where it belongs.the vote has been counted/time to get your co%ks out boys and compare sizes.screaming eagles all round.work together and you may be rewarded,slander and devide/fall you shall.

Short_Circuit 13th May 2008 08:31

CA

No problems to say NO if you were part of the ALAEA during the PIA !!

Obviously you have resigned..

No sympathy for you lot.

You will take the spoils but not share the pain. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Acute Instinct 13th May 2008 09:13

Where u at now?
 
Chemical Ali,

Have you taken a knock recently. Are you feeling alright. With statements like 'time to get your c*cks out boys' and 'you may be rewarded' and how's this one 'fall you shall'. There's alot of you, you, you about it. What happened to we, we, we. Sounds a bit condescending. Come on Chemical, let them defend themselves. They are big boys who have made deliberate desicions, or been shoehorned in via the club door at the expense of their so-called mates. Bit rich for you to be telling us it is somehow not their fault they now find themselves between a rock and a hard place. Did they think that they were joining the army, yet would never be called to war! It's time for them to cough up. There wont be lives lost, just life long friendships. Lest we ever forget!

P.S. Quote' whilst this does not exclude them from the brotherhood from which they came' Unquote. Your words Chemical. The brotherhood will decide that one. I dare say Friday will be like catching your brother in bed with your wife. Oh, it wasn't his fault, she made him do it! I'm prepared to burn a few friendships on the spot. I hope your not one of them.

binrow 13th May 2008 09:21

My PIA
 
To all my fellow Qantas employeesand the engineers in particular,

I fail to vote in the latest ballot as I felt that I couldn't, as I voteted 2 weeks ago wit my feet. after 17 years as an apprentice,ame the lame it has become time to leave a job that i felt I could carry out till I retired.But after all the years of watching the managment cutbacks , rationalizations, efficancy gains,and the (personal opion) destroying of an orginazation that could repair, mod and generally keep flying anything built with ease and a sense pride and purpose. I wish you all, enginners and the rest of the qf staff all the best for the future and will offer all the moral support that I can as I continue my avaition carrer elsewhere.now of to the sandpit!:):):):):)

As a small footnote as it is a rumor network I heard today 26 LAME's from BNE H/M interveiwed on monday for position at Etihad including several snr lames and their backups along with quote a few of the snr lame staff that are fed up with the NZ connection. Apparently they were out and about trying to find out who and where all the lame's where on Monday.:= :D

JETTRONIC 13th May 2008 10:03

It's a small industry, we never forget.

spangled1 13th May 2008 10:07

club pineapple still don't get it. :=, son please have a word to steptoe.:ouch:

motown man 13th May 2008 10:21

Binrow

You are a man after my own heart. I too have jumped in and felt the sand between the toes. Its so revitalising after the dealing with the amazing sycophants at QF. I can really can understand where you are coming from and why you have chosen an honourable option. For your support we salute you.

Ah the sandpit.

Come Friday the "line in the sandpit" will reveal all.

CA you will be on the wrong side of the line. Time for you to grow a spine.

You are one of those who wants to run with the Hares and Hunt with the Hounds!!


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