Spineless C**ts
 

F**K THIS BULLS**T

PIA NOW ! ! !

5% or Nothing gets off the ground.

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knucklehead
 

Lets wait for the detail and take a deep breath in the mean time.:ugh:

There are many other ways other than 1 X 5 or 5 X 1 that equals 5, like say 3 plus 2 for example.

Hope that's not too deep for you.:ok:

I would have accepted 0% in return of ridding us of this current failing management.:confused: When I did my apprenticeship if you failed tech or was a druggo they sent you to EOC. Now these idiots are running Qf engineering. God help us.

timeless truths never go out of fashion
 

Imagine An army of ONE, multiplied by 1600 LAME's

You might as well kiss your 1.4b profit goodbye.

Re: Headcone's post #86
 

Re: post #86: ‘Guys you could have done better than this had you persisted.’ Headcone, the EBA is not certified yet. It appears that you have some inside info on how we can do better if we persist. Can you please pass this information on to the ALAEA executive so they can act on it? Are you a member of the ALAEA or even a LAME? Where are you getting your inside info from? Thanks for any assistance.

I am an LAME of One
 

I am a LAME of One (or 2, or 1600, ...),

I am a LAME of One - A LAME in the Qantas Airways army.

For years I was a loyal soldier in Hudson Fysh's army. Now I fight my own war.

I used to feel valued and respected. Now I know I am mere beancounter's fodder.

QANTAS used to exhibit labour leadership. Now QANTAS exploits legal loopholes.

QANTAS used to enjoy my JUDGEMENT. Now QANTAS suffers my COMPLIANCE.

I am a LAME of One.

I used to save QANTAS more than a thousand Hours of delay; finding the best MEL, getting involved and engaged, Staying back or coming in when the rosters were wrong, skimping during daily checks, adjusting my smokos for best utilisation, being smart and giving QANTAS every effort I could conjure. Now, it's "whatever whenever".

I used to call in defects on the radio, so that the parts required would be ready at the gate. Now, QANTAS will find the technical log write-up when they look in the handover.

I used to try to fix defects on the go, now I sit back and watch as the technical log hold items pile up.

I used to come in sick and work. Now I use my sick days, on short notice, on the worst days of the month.

I am a LAME of One.

I used to shut down the APU at the earliest possible moment. Now the cleaners and caterers enjoy extreme comfort.

I used to let the minutes of delay affect my judgement. I still do.

I used to cover mistakes by QANTAS management. Now I watch them unfold.

I used to hustle to ensure an on-time departure, to make QANTAS the best. Now I don't, because I realise QANTAS can never be the best with the current beancounters.

I used to call Maintenance Watch for Advice, to head off delays. Now I wait until departure minus 30 minutes for an REA (Request for Engineering Advice).

I'm on a new mission - to demonstrate that misguided leadership of indifference and disrespect has a cost. It's about character, not
contracts. It's about leading by taking care of your people instead of leadership by bean counters (an oxymoron).

I am a one-man wrecking crew - a LAME of One.

My mission used to be to make QANTAS rich.

Now it's to make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS Retrenches more LAMEs than QANTAS employs apprentices, - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS under-staff bases and over-work LAMEs to keep LAMEs undergraded, glass ceilinged, or downtrodden - I will make QANTAS pay.

When customers are delayed boarding system wide, because transit time is reduced and Maintenance checks are skimped - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS force AMEs, who have waited years to become LAMEs, to be AMEs forever- I will make QANTAS pay.

When they ask QANTAS LAMEs to show leadership and discretion , and then deny LAMEs CPI pay Equality - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS call ex Heavy maintenance LAMEs in for the strikebreaking, just to mess with them again after retrenching them - I will make QANTAS pay.

When QANTAS constantly violate the letter and spirit of our EBA - an EBA that's a bargain by any measure, and force us to fight lengthy grievances - I will make QANTAS pay.

The ALAEA negotiating committee speaks for me, but I act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the bean counters that made me.

Are you listening?

This mercenary LAME has a lot of years left with QANTAS; how long can QANTAS afford to keep me bitter?

I'm not looking for clauses in a contract,

I'm looking for a culture of commitment and caring. When I see it, I'll be a soldier for QANTAS again.

Until then, I am a LAME of One…And I am not alone!

Spineless C**ts
 

Post this on the dunny wall if you have the balls,

and

by the way

F**k you all you scabbing overtime c**nts

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Knuckledragger,

Please don't ever apply for a job over our way (VB) if you decide to cut ties with the Q. I don't know how you get out of bed in the morning with so much baggage weighing you down.

Knuckeldragger
 

Why dont you pin your own comments up so and let the rest of the world know who you are you neanderthal, you should not be allowed near an an airport let alone pretend to be a LAME, perhaps you should migrate to North Korea or Burma, they like your type in those countries.

Knuckledragger1
There are a lot of QF boys who know where you are coming from, being driven to this place by constant floggings by useless management. They have created this mess and don't know how to fix it, just outsource the problem to someone else.
Its time someone fixed the problem. :cool:

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I mean, get behind the ALAEA, get a decent EBA (don't know what is on the table today) running and continue to fight for our survival and that of Qantas Engineering.

Very impressed with the union they have dealt with the important issues such as the running down of maintenance in australia and lack of training. We voted to give the Executive the mandate to get a better result and use P.I.A. to that means. now if the Executive endorse this eba and we vote it down what are we going to do then, I was not a big fan of the Executive when they were elected I thought they were hot headed and spoiling for a fight now I believe they can work with managent to improve the company for employees and shareholders

Knuckeldragger you dont seem to want to get this eba up, some qantas junior management dont want it to get up either, get my drift.

Domo you are a stooge,

Why don't you go back to Japan?

or were you shafted there?

I sense a disillusioned company man?

Hard to take isn't it,

once being a loyal Qantas soldier

then the generals - sorry beancounters sell you out,

makes you feel foolish, a little angry perhaps?

maybe its time to stop patching the holes with ricepaper and let it all hang out.

:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: :ugh::ugh::ugh:

knuckledragger1
 

Well done:D. I,m with you all the way. Qantas doesn't realise what they've lost. For years I have skipped lunch,gone above and beyond to minimise delays as well.No more. I follow their stupid procedures to their detrement.It is not the intelligence of the Lame that has made Qf engineering a success, but the training we received in the Qf system that has made me what I am today.That is all gone. 85 years of engineering excellence gone in 2 years of mismanagement. The last course I did was how throw teddy bears around a room full of "Amazing people". Gee wiz that has been a great help. I don't mean to delay aircraft I am just following your procedures so be greatful. Its what you wanted.:mad: off back to EOC you idiots before the damage is irreversible.Imagine if they became Mc Donalds managers, you would have to go to KFC for a Big Mac cause they be outsourced.
If 3% is all they give then thats what they'll get back.

EOC ????
 

M and his mates buggered EOC, to the point where they have engines in the shop for over 12 months now... not obsolete engines like the JT3 that they kept running for the RAAF, but RB211-524G's.

I went to see some mates in eoc one xmas and they were putting up banners that read ' 200.. The year of the 90 day engine ' ... the next year, they were putting up banners that read ' 200.. The year of the 120 day engine '

They have an RB211 that has been in the shop for over 12 months now...

M is a slash and burn man, we need to rebuild what he has destroyed with his ignorance, arogance and stupidity. He and his cronies must go so that we can get on with the task, the long an expensive task...

What will the real cost be.......

Isn't that a Centre of Excellence?

My God, this lot must deploy some technical spin so the bean counters never take into account the outrageous costs incurred here and everywhere else M and his cronies have leaned with their exceptional business skills.

Q is being gutted and are they too stupid to realise it ... or just too arrogant?

What did the boys at ADL ITB do?????

M simply does not understand what it is that he is managing.

Anyone who has heard him speak will know and fear this fact.

For me it is not whether he figures it out but whether the board figures it out and acts accordingly and removes the problem.

so where is mr itookdamoney now ? to the so called stikebreakers/scabs who signed the dotted line, how does it feel that your names will be forever tarnished,the lists will be published both here and o/s so enjoy the silver you have sold your soul for while it lasts.

I can't wait to see the list, see who was about to stab us in the backs!:mad:

Chem Alli / Shorty

I luv u guys :E

Chemical Ali
 

Can you please promise that you will publish this...PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE

Hope you are prepared , becauase i wouldnt want you to put anyones name up that is incorrect,

Actually you problably will get it wrong you idiot

In fact that way when you get sued for defamation , you will have to post applogies on this site in your real name,

Will be great for all to know who you are you

Come on POST THE NAMES Dare you to! JUST MAKE SURE YOU ARE 100%

Even if you are 100% CORRECT you will be challenged to prove it, as i would like to know how you found these out and will look forward to UNMASKING you for who and what you really are

No need to post.....we work in a small industry....there isnt much that does not get around the network/industry....

Wishful Thinking
 

Chem Alli & Short_Circuit,

It is obviously wishful thinking on your behalf.

:rolleyes:

LAMEA380,

I'm with you.

Ouch seems to have touched a nerve Chem Ali :eek:

Do not fear, just send their names through to the asn I'm sure they will be more than happy to keep an eye on them :E

A380 doorstop, since youre so upset, have you heard JHAS has lost the bid already :{

If QF management read this thread then they will probably come to the realisation that they don't want a workforce full of bad blood working on their new pride and joy.
It looks like the ALAEA members are self imploding while QF just sit back and let it happen. They are masters at the divide and conquer process and reading these threads it is working for them.

Headcone, please respond.
 

Hi Headcone, are you going to back up your claim re: post #86: ‘Guys you could have done better than this had you persisted.’ Headcone, the EBA is not certified yet. It appears that you have some inside info on how we can do better if we persist. Can you please pass this information on to the ALAEA executive so they can act on it? Are you a member of the ALAEA or even a LAME? Where are you getting your inside info from? Thanks for any assistance.

It is quite obvious that Headcone is a F**kwit,

Refer to post #86: ‘Guys you could have done better than this had you persisted'

This means he is not a LAME

He is most likely one or more of 4 things,

1, A troll,

2, An agent of the other side of the negotiating table,

3, An alter ego of one of the posters here, to drum up argument

4, A misguided individual who thinks that there is a reward for employees with cheap allegiences,

BTW I know for a fact that the reward these sort of people get - will come from both sides, a prime example is how the scabs on the waterfront dispute ended up.

:ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch: :ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch::ouch:

if the ALAEA has done a deal where it is looking after LAME's that are only at Qf(currently employed),then i will reconsider my future when it comes to scabbing.
Set up a B scale i dare you.........

Talkwrench & knuckledragger1,

Maybe I should rephrase what I posted. I should have said, "Guys you may have done better than this had you persisted"

I did not mean to offend by my comment it was merely speculation.

I would also like to clarify that I am none of the things knuckledragger1 suggests I am.

;)

The deal being negotiated is a PRINCIPLE IN AGREEMENT..it still has to be voted on by the membership . Regardless if the Association endorse it, the members still have to vote . Either way the vote goes the association will support us 110%....

Mr LAMEA380
 

The Association has already assembled a list. Names have been provided from sources from both inside and outside of QF. Don't think that everybody involved in recruiting you s*!bs, supports you.

Lists do not need to be published for all you s*!bs to be revealed. If you don't have any family, "friends" or ever worked in the industry in Australia you might be able to keep a low profile, otherwise bad luck.

Names are already circulating, some have been revealed because you have been spotted in other ports doing training/recurrency; overseas colleagues have revealed where you were going; training lists have been supplied; fellow s*!bs have revealed who else have been involved; you have resigned from the ALAEA; family / friends have revealed to others in the industry what you are up to.

There is no reason for doubt - we know who you are!

Piot Bord
 

WOW, your really scare me, am quaking in my boots,

THe fact of the matter is the landscape in aviation is changing this agreement IN PRINCIPLE proves it.

Dinosaurs like you have had their day,

You seem to have some sort of meglomanic delusions that you guys have some sort of influence or power over others , do you really belive that anybody cares about your list your threats, you really have lost touch

BUT continue to MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER, with your delusions of retrebution , what a joke you are, the horse has bolted, yet you are the only one that cannot see it.

Lamea380
 

We long for your day of reckoning ...:ok:

(Meaning, he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword).

Shorty
 

Just reinforces my point on your mentality, and delusions

who gives you the right to quote the bible, and on what basis

You amaze me with your delusions of self inportance, absolutely disgraceful the lot of you.

so now mr lameA380, you feel vindicated in posting legal premise.in regards to publishing the lists of names of the unscupulous who were so blatant in voicing their own self worth on this forum, whilst undermining a legal application to the airc.by the looks of it the alaea has achieved an outcome without any undue reproach from the travelling public.
when the in principle agreement is published and voted on by the members,do not think the untoward will walk softly into the nite to be forgotten.

to the guys posting what they believe to be the letter of agreement.

just hold fire until you have a copy of the eba offer in your hot little hands ,speculation and inuendo do no favours either to the alaea or the company.

once read and if accepted to be put to a vote, you can tick yes or no

lamea380
 

2 Timothy 4

Guess it is pretty obvious who..:ok:

The Father, Son & Holy Spirit (and Myself) await your reply. :E

LameA380 - The way I read it, you asked for lists to be published of those who were willing to short circuit a legal industrial negotiation process by providing a substandard, undermanned workforce who were motivated purely for short term personal gain.

You weren't particularly happy when it was pointed out that a "list" does not need to be "published" for it to become public knowledge.

Good Luck with your future pursuits in the aviation industry!


SpannerTwister - While I don't totally disagree with your sentiments, when asked at the ALAEA meeting who wanted all details released (knowing that it could harm the "in-principle agreement"), 98% of those present voted not to reveal details of the package.

If the package is no good, I'll support your line of thinking 100%. Until then, how about staying united with the 98% who are willing to hold fire for the next couple of days. We don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot.