View Poll Results: What is the best way to study for the ATPL's?
Self Study (Trevor Thom)
15
15.96%
Costly Theory Provider
51
54.26%
Online (Rob Avery)
5
5.32%
Mixture of all of the above
23
24.47%
Voters: 94. This poll is closed
How to do the ATPL's???
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How to do the ATPL's???
Time has come to get those ATPL’s out the way.
What is the best way to do this mammoth task?
1) Self Study (Trevor Thom)
2) Pay heaps of $$$ and attend a theory provider
3) Online (Rob Avery)
Any information or thoughts would be great!
What is the best way to do this mammoth task?
1) Self Study (Trevor Thom)
2) Pay heaps of $$$ and attend a theory provider
3) Online (Rob Avery)
Any information or thoughts would be great!
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did mine at a school -won't mention the name,though they were bloody good-cost me a pretty penny but worth it.
oh, i fluffed it twice before on my own that's why. give the man his dues and get it over it, is my advice.
oh, i fluffed it twice before on my own that's why. give the man his dues and get it over it, is my advice.
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I'm attempting self study. Starting with the easy subjects first.
If I manage to drag myself away from this bl**dy computer I might get some reading done.
If I manage to drag myself away from this bl**dy computer I might get some reading done.
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ATPL Subjects
OK here is my chance to plug a theory provider that I consider the best in the country.
Check out Advanced Flight Theory at Maroochydore. A pleasant environment to study the subjects and also a world class instructor. I suggest doing the four harder subjects first
Flight Planning, NAV, Performance and Loading, Systems
The reamining 3 are a peice of cake and can be self studied. Nathan at AFT provides you with the exact knowledge to pass the exams and has an outstanding pass rate....
Highly Recommended...
Ang
Advanced Flight Theory
Check out Advanced Flight Theory at Maroochydore. A pleasant environment to study the subjects and also a world class instructor. I suggest doing the four harder subjects first
Flight Planning, NAV, Performance and Loading, Systems
The reamining 3 are a peice of cake and can be self studied. Nathan at AFT provides you with the exact knowledge to pass the exams and has an outstanding pass rate....
Highly Recommended...
Ang
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Did mine in Maroochy with what's his name. (the name is on the tip of my tongue)
Anyway VERY VERY VERY EXCELLENT Instructor!!! Fulltime course is the best way, get it over and done with
Did all my tests at once failed, failed Nav believe it or not, then passed it the secound time a month later!!!!
Yippeeeee
That's it .....Nathan!!!
Top bloke and excellent instructor. Worth every penny!!
Though a discount would be better!
Anyway VERY VERY VERY EXCELLENT Instructor!!! Fulltime course is the best way, get it over and done with
Did all my tests at once failed, failed Nav believe it or not, then passed it the secound time a month later!!!!
Yippeeeee
That's it .....Nathan!!!
Top bloke and excellent instructor. Worth every penny!!
Though a discount would be better!
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Many thanks for the feedback guys!
AFT seems the place to go!
Have heard that some people specialize better then others in certain subjects.
i.e. Mr X is great for Flight Planning but not so good for AGK or Mr Y is great at AGK but hopeless at performance and loading.
Any thoughts?
AFT seems the place to go!
Have heard that some people specialize better then others in certain subjects.
i.e. Mr X is great for Flight Planning but not so good for AGK or Mr Y is great at AGK but hopeless at performance and loading.
Any thoughts?
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I used Rob Avery's and found it to be sensational. Rob was fantastic and he couldn't do enough to help you. I also thought that the cost was very reasonable and considering the ease with which I went through them all, well worth it!
On top of the theory I also got free access to his editorials and various other postings. Several airline interviews articles and so forth which are well worth the read.
On top of the theory I also got free access to his editorials and various other postings. Several airline interviews articles and so forth which are well worth the read.
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Doing mine at the moment by correspondence with AFT. Passed AGK and Air Law first go. Nathan is always available to help and answer questions. Obviously if you can afford to go there, that would be the best way to go, as self study at home has too many distractions, i.e. cricket and beer.
Worth every cent so far, would recommend 100%
Worth every cent so far, would recommend 100%
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other then that sounds right.
Other part not mentioned, is that you can resit the classes if you fail, for free. So you know that what you pay is what it will cost to get your atpl... with the exception of exam fees which you'll have to pay again if you need a 2nd go.
They also arrange your accomodation and its well priced, pot luck with what room/house you get, but i got lucky so i was happy with it.
If your a youngter (like me) i recomend it as you'll meet a lot of people and get to hear a lot of different views, get some advice, and so forth.
Only thing i could have to say thats not good is the lack of natural light in the classroom... i get sleepy in airconditioned rooms with fluro lights
other then that sounds right.
Other part not mentioned, is that you can resit the classes if you fail, for free. So you know that what you pay is what it will cost to get your atpl... with the exception of exam fees which you'll have to pay again if you need a 2nd go.
They also arrange your accomodation and its well priced, pot luck with what room/house you get, but i got lucky so i was happy with it.
If your a youngter (like me) i recomend it as you'll meet a lot of people and get to hear a lot of different views, get some advice, and so forth.
Only thing i could have to say thats not good is the lack of natural light in the classroom... i get sleepy in airconditioned rooms with fluro lights
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Stand corrected the course is around 2500 but thats for 5 weeks of study. You also have to consider accomodation when your there. Give Kate a call and ask about the Quest apartments I highly recommend them... A bit of a walk but that will only clear your head...
A closer place to stay is 780 David Low Way right at the gate to the airport... Kate will have all the details. Good Luck
Ang
A closer place to stay is 780 David Low Way right at the gate to the airport... Kate will have all the details. Good Luck
Ang
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Have to agree with the AFT course. Have done some by self study at home, and some with Nathan at AFT and found his course to be worth every cent.
At the end of the day though it comes down to your circumstances. Can you afford 5 weeks off work, are you disipled enough to self study, etc. My recomendation though if you can afford it do a classroom course.
PT
At the end of the day though it comes down to your circumstances. Can you afford 5 weeks off work, are you disipled enough to self study, etc. My recomendation though if you can afford it do a classroom course.
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In going with the best way to do ATPL's...
I live in NZ and can't really afford the time away from work to do a full time course with AFT (I hear they are really good).
Has anyone done these subjects by correspondence then, once they have an Aussie ATPL, converted it to an NZ one?
Or is Rob Avery a better idea for NZers? If so, where can I get hold of more information regarding him?
I live in NZ and can't really afford the time away from work to do a full time course with AFT (I hear they are really good).
Has anyone done these subjects by correspondence then, once they have an Aussie ATPL, converted it to an NZ one?
Or is Rob Avery a better idea for NZers? If so, where can I get hold of more information regarding him?
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Like most people have said above go to Advanced Flight Theory.
Nathan Higgins is a true theory professional. It is certainly worth the time and money to visit AFT for your ATPL. Nathan will stick with you until you pass.
The course format is easier now due to the cyber exams. Now you can learn one subject sit the exam and pass or Fail, you can forget it and move on to the next. I first did the course just before Cyber exams and you had to remember all subjects until the end
If you can book early and stay @ 780 David low way- you can even catch a RPT flight (QANTAS) to the door step of 780 David low way and AFT
Ash767
Like most people have said above go to Advanced Flight Theory.
Nathan Higgins is a true theory professional. It is certainly worth the time and money to visit AFT for your ATPL. Nathan will stick with you until you pass.
The course format is easier now due to the cyber exams. Now you can learn one subject sit the exam and pass or Fail, you can forget it and move on to the next. I first did the course just before Cyber exams and you had to remember all subjects until the end
If you can book early and stay @ 780 David low way- you can even catch a RPT flight (QANTAS) to the door step of 780 David low way and AFT
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I did the hard 4 with a very good theory provider and got very good results i ended up doing HFA self study with a book by Green and Trevor Thom which saved me $150 i have almost finished the distant learning for Met and Alaw from AFT and i have been very impressed with the notes and sample exams although i will not say to much untill after the exams next week
Good Luck to all
Good Luck to all
What about Len Sales at UNSW? The guru!!!
Plenty of laughs and great stories from someone who's been there and done it. I passed all 7 first go, so he must be doing something right!
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Plenty of laughs and great stories from someone who's been there and done it. I passed all 7 first go, so he must be doing something right!
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rob in perth is outstanding. Used him for FLT planning only, the rest you can pass on your own without much trouble. Get the ATPL syllabus from CASA / pilot supply store, get the necessary books and get reading. Robs diagramatic approach to flt planning makes it more meaningful and not just a number crunching exercise. Very high pass rate for first attempt. Good luck .....