Is this a clean slate?
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Is this a clean slate?
http://www.casa.gov.au/hotopics/media_rel/02-12-11.htm
Are we back to square one on this one. How many more forums, consultations, reviews, feedbacks, etc .... do we need to get this sorted.
PNG has been able to do it while we dilly dally.
Maybe it will turn out OK in the end. At the rate it is going we will be all retired
Are we back to square one on this one. How many more forums, consultations, reviews, feedbacks, etc .... do we need to get this sorted.
PNG has been able to do it while we dilly dally.
Maybe it will turn out OK in the end. At the rate it is going we will be all retired
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One of the great things about a buraucracy is it's ability to appear to be moving ahead without actually doing anything. This is particularly true of CASA and the military. You start out with a name change - in CASAs case make that several name changes. you then consult, study, survey, analyse followed by iterative changes to sell what is essentially a daft idea by stealth. It is quite an art form. You should be proud that CASA is so good at it.
for the lazy ones who can not clicky.....
New aviation industry summit
Australia’s aviation industry is being called on to play a hands-on role in the development of important new aviation safety regulations.
Air operators, pilots and training organisations are being asked to take part in a national summit on the proposed new aviation rules.
A special conference is being organised by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority to examine proposed reforms to key operational, licensing and training rules.
Hundreds of people from aviation organisations as well as private pilots are expected to take part in the conference to be held early next year in Sydney.
The conference will run from 3 – 5 March at the Sydney Convention Centre.
Participants will consider draft new rules covering flying operations, flying training and licensing.
These rules are at the core of CASA’s program to overhaul Australia’s aviation safety regulations.
CASA’s Director of Aviation Safety, Mick Toller, says the conference will give everyone interested in aviation regulatory reform another opportunity to have their say and make a real difference to the outcomes.
“CASA doesn’t pretend to be the source of all wisdom in aviation in Australia,” Mr Toller says.
“Experts from both CASA and the aviation industry have worked hard to develop the proposed new rules with the aim of achieving world’s best practice in aviation safety.
“But it is very important for Australia’s pilots, air operators and flying training organisations to have their say and the summit is yet another opportunity to be heard.
“For the reforms to be a success we need everyone to understand the benefits of the changes and to accept and endorse the new rules when they are put in place.
“This conference is the chance to discuss the proposals in detail with CASA and industry colleagues and to put forward ideas and constructive criticisms for CASA to incorporate in the next stages of rule making.”
CASA is aiming to present the final package of aviation safety regulatory reforms to Federal Parliament by the end of next year.
New aviation industry summit
Australia’s aviation industry is being called on to play a hands-on role in the development of important new aviation safety regulations.
Air operators, pilots and training organisations are being asked to take part in a national summit on the proposed new aviation rules.
A special conference is being organised by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority to examine proposed reforms to key operational, licensing and training rules.
Hundreds of people from aviation organisations as well as private pilots are expected to take part in the conference to be held early next year in Sydney.
The conference will run from 3 – 5 March at the Sydney Convention Centre.
Participants will consider draft new rules covering flying operations, flying training and licensing.
These rules are at the core of CASA’s program to overhaul Australia’s aviation safety regulations.
CASA’s Director of Aviation Safety, Mick Toller, says the conference will give everyone interested in aviation regulatory reform another opportunity to have their say and make a real difference to the outcomes.
“CASA doesn’t pretend to be the source of all wisdom in aviation in Australia,” Mr Toller says.
“Experts from both CASA and the aviation industry have worked hard to develop the proposed new rules with the aim of achieving world’s best practice in aviation safety.
“But it is very important for Australia’s pilots, air operators and flying training organisations to have their say and the summit is yet another opportunity to be heard.
“For the reforms to be a success we need everyone to understand the benefits of the changes and to accept and endorse the new rules when they are put in place.
“This conference is the chance to discuss the proposals in detail with CASA and industry colleagues and to put forward ideas and constructive criticisms for CASA to incorporate in the next stages of rule making.”
CASA is aiming to present the final package of aviation safety regulatory reforms to Federal Parliament by the end of next year.
Grandpa Aerotart
Ya gotta understand the 'Public Service System' fellas!
If you join the public service and roll on along making no waves and keeping your head down then each 3 years you get an automatic increment and a promotion.
If you join the public service and have grand ideas that work reasonably well then every 3 years you get an automatic pay increment and a promotion.
If you join the public service and make some dumb decisions, among a few good ones that the establishment don't like, then every 3 years you get an automatic increment and promoted sideways.
So where on earth is the incentive to be other than the same shade of grey as everyone else?
The System is set up for the benefit of The System...not you or I.
The System has automatic, deeply entrenched and highly refined arse covering, buck passing, attention diverting filters...that are designed to protect The System!!
Why do you think the 'Yes Minister' & 'Yes Prime Minister' programs were so succesfull...because they were dangerously, disgustingly, sadly, hilariously close to the truth!!!
Chuck.
If you join the public service and roll on along making no waves and keeping your head down then each 3 years you get an automatic increment and a promotion.
If you join the public service and have grand ideas that work reasonably well then every 3 years you get an automatic pay increment and a promotion.
If you join the public service and make some dumb decisions, among a few good ones that the establishment don't like, then every 3 years you get an automatic increment and promoted sideways.
So where on earth is the incentive to be other than the same shade of grey as everyone else?
The System is set up for the benefit of The System...not you or I.
The System has automatic, deeply entrenched and highly refined arse covering, buck passing, attention diverting filters...that are designed to protect The System!!
Why do you think the 'Yes Minister' & 'Yes Prime Minister' programs were so succesfull...because they were dangerously, disgustingly, sadly, hilariously close to the truth!!!
Chuck.
“CASA doesn’t pretend to be the source of all wisdom in aviation in Australia,” Mr Toller says.
Mick, the aviation industry knows that but your staff have been contradicting you for years!
Mick, the aviation industry knows that but your staff have been contradicting you for years!
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And Chuck, being entrenched as it is, the system advises the relevant Minister of desired changes, for which he/she takes credit for in that years federal Budget.
The changes put forward are always those which are complex and involve employing more public servants to administer. Hence the monster keeps growing at the taxpayers expense. Like that mythical monster, you cut off one head and a dozen heads replace it.
The changes put forward are always those which are complex and involve employing more public servants to administer. Hence the monster keeps growing at the taxpayers expense. Like that mythical monster, you cut off one head and a dozen heads replace it.
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Is this summit in Sydney going to be the last of the consultation procedure or is CASA planning more to allow the operators and pilots in other states to participate?
The media release does not indicate that other summits are planned.
Will the CASA spin doctors release another media release in early March 2003, just as the summit in SY is starting, stating;
"the aviation industry is happy with the new regs "
I recall that this happened with the release about the aural warning devices for "small" pressurised aircraft where there was a media release stating that aural warning devices would be fitted. This was in the same week as the industry consultation on the subject was due to begin.
The media release does not indicate that other summits are planned.
Will the CASA spin doctors release another media release in early March 2003, just as the summit in SY is starting, stating;
"the aviation industry is happy with the new regs "
I recall that this happened with the release about the aural warning devices for "small" pressurised aircraft where there was a media release stating that aural warning devices would be fitted. This was in the same week as the industry consultation on the subject was due to begin.
