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Old 7th Oct 2023, 05:53
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At last some real evidence!
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Pity they don't have PANTS in the Zeti Reticuli system.
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New documentaries

Of interest is a new documentary on UFOs produced by Steven Spielberg - I think it’s called encounters. Worth watching even if you are sceptical. Also there’s a documentary I think by a guy called Jamie Fox about a UFO crash in Brazil which was covered up. I think also the Roswell New Mexico incident seems to have been a coverup. Initial reports were that they had found a crashed UFO; this was quickly changed and it became a weather balloon. There are reports that one of the aliens survived the crash and was kept in captivity until he/she died a few years later from unknown causes. Anyway Dick I’m only writing this so I can DM you about an unrelated upcoming documentary about entirely unrelated matters.
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The green men land, grab some Earthling, and say "Take us to your leader!"

Where would you take them?

Not to Biden or Trump, not to Putin.

Maybe to Yung Fat Wun, and they would just disappear? Penny Wong would sign them up for free housing and the dole.
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The green men land, grab some Earthling, and say "Take us to your leader!"

Where would you take them?

Not to Biden or Trump, not to Putin.

Maybe to Yung Fat Wun, and they would just disappear? Penny Wong would sign them up for free housing and the dole.
Penny Wong would ask them to bring millions more for endless growth.
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If the Aliens had an intergalactic craft which would be capable of phenomenal speeds for the journey, why would they idle around with their species Cessna struck on the side ..as claimed to be seen.
That wouldn’t last long when they throttled up to warp drive 7.
Any reports of blobs of molten aluminium falling from the sky. .?

I know the known universe is big…VERY BIG..that’s not to say that in a galaxy far away a planet may have got lucky with the chemistry. But…!
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There have been astounding reports of encounters in the past 80 years….you would have to be a fool if you off handedly discredited or discounted every single one of the people that report unusual encounters.

We will be like the Incas encountering Cortez, Indians encountering Columbus or aborigines encountering Cook only on a possible differential evolutionary time scale of millions or possibly hundreds of millions or billions of our years.

Some interesting starters

Ariel School - 1994 Zimbabwe
Reverend Gill - 1959 Papua New Guinea
Virginha Brazil - 1996
Lonnie Zamora - New Mexico 1964
David Fravor - USA West coast 2004
Donald Shrum - Cisco Grove California 1964
Hickson & Parker - Pascagoula USA 1973
Kelly Cahill - Dandenong 1993


Have a listen to this guys recent experience in South Africa
https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/ep-57-friday-skies/


Take a look at the number of stars in our neighbouring Andromeda galaxy and combine that image with the billions of galaxies revealed by Hubble Ultra Deep Field and it makes the argument that we are alone just absurd.




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Now almost everyone has a camera in their pocket, the UFO photos should be everywhere, unless of course they don't exist.


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Perfectly understandable for there to be life on other worlds, even intelligent life. It's a totally different thing to think that some other life has both solved the tyranny of interstellar distances AND decided to visit Earth (of all places!) AND kept it secret.

in 20,000 hours. I have seen green flash meteorites, shower of spark meteorites, Russian rocket stage re-entries, sun dogs, brokenspecrtres, sparks jumping inside the cockpit (in charged clouds near thunderstorms), large amature-launched balloons, St. Elmo's fire on the windows and lancing forward of the aircraft into clouds, satellite flares (the Starlink flares at the moment regularly confuse airline pilots on the radio who don't know what they are looking at), comets, planet alignments ... never anything I didn't understand or wasn't normally understandable with a small amount of thought.
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Perfectly understandable for there to be life on other worlds, even intelligent life. It's a totally different thing to think that some other life has both solved the tyranny of interstellar distances AND decided to visit Earth (of all places!) AND kept it secret.

in 20,000 hours. I have seen green flash meteorites, shower of spark meteorites, Russian rocket stage re-entries, sun dogs, brokenspecrtres, sparks jumping inside the cockpit (in charged clouds near thunderstorms), large amature-launched balloons, St. Elmo's fire on the windows and lancing forward of the aircraft into clouds, satellite flares (the Starlink flares at the moment regularly confuse airline pilots on the radio who don't know what they are looking at), comets, planet alignments ... never anything I didn't understand or wasn't normally understandable with a small amount of thought.
Yeah, sure you did.........show us the evidence.
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It appears up to seven schools in the Melbourne area also sited similar UFOs !

Amazing they can travel many light years through space only to be sited by school children.

Or as someone said on a previous post it could all be imagination and self delusion!

Now with ten years of just about everyone carrying a camera phone there is still not one bit of good evidence
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Originally Posted by ramble on
There have been astounding reports of encounters in the past 80 years….you would have to be a fool if you off handedly discredited or discounted every single one of the people that report unusual encounters.

We will be like the Incas encountering Cortez, Indians encountering Columbus or aborigines encountering Cook only on a possible differential evolutionary time scale of millions or possibly hundreds of millions or billions of our years.

Some interesting starters

Ariel School - 1994 Zimbabwe
Reverend Gill - 1959 Papua New Guinea
Virginha Brazil - 1996
Lonnie Zamora - New Mexico 1964
David Fravor - USA West coast 2004
Donald Shrum - Cisco Grove California 1964
Hickson & Parker - Pascagoula USA 1973
Kelly Cahill - Dandenong 1993


Have a listen to this guys recent experience in South Africa
https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/ep-57-friday-skies/


Take a look at the number of stars in our neighbouring Andromeda galaxy and combine that image with the billions of galaxies revealed by Hubble Ultra Deep Field and it makes the argument that we are alone just absurd.

https://youtu.be/udAL48P5NJU?feature=shared
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I am moderately well versed in astronomy and atmospheric effects and illusions, and also rocketry. I've been lucky enough to have seen most of what Checkerboard (above) has seen as well (except substitute Russian reentry for Hyabusa entry and recovery).

However I have been unable to plausibly explain multiple crew reports on different nights in the cruise of bright points of light moving rapidly across the sky, stopping suddenly, and abruptly changing direction. I have yet to see them. This does not fit the pattern of the starlink satellites.

I'm not saying they are aliens practising dog fights in the upper atmosphere, however it doesn't align with any known (public) craft and I can't fathom what natural phenomenon they could be with the reported course reversal.
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Personally, given the trillions of stars/planets in the universe, the likelihood of intelligent life is 99.9% assured in my humble opinion, however, as stated above, the enormous distances between "us" & "them" is so great that travel is impossible, for us at least, at this point in time.

Just my 2 lire's worth...
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Compressor. How do you know if you simply imagined it?

Could be a possible explanation!

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…you would have to be a fool if you off handedly discredited or discounted every single one of the people that report unusual encounters.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Thousands of people, not all of them obviously stupid, claim to have seen ghosts, Elvis, Bigfoot etc.

And most of us are aware that there is almost certainly life elsewhere. Doesn’t mean that they’re here. The almost inconceivable (to us) vastness of time and space makes it very unlikely that their visit would coincide with the momentary flash of light that is human civilisation.

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Originally Posted by compressor stall
I am moderately well versed in astronomy and atmospheric effects and illusions, and also rocketry. I've been lucky enough to have seen most of what Checkerboard (above) has seen as well (except substitute Russian reentry for Hyabusa entry and recovery).

However I have been unable to plausibly explain multiple crew reports on different nights in the cruise of bright points of light moving rapidly across the sky, stopping suddenly, and abruptly changing direction. I have yet to see them. This does not fit the pattern of the starlink satellites.

I'm not saying they are aliens practising dog fights in the upper atmosphere, however it doesn't align with any known (public) craft and I can't fathom what natural phenomenon they could be with the reported course reversal.
They are Starlink satellites. There's an entire thread here somewhere that discusses the phenomenon.
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I have seen something that I can't explain, my wife was with me and saw what I saw. Talking to somebody 25 years after in another state he described an experience very similar without prompting, I hadn't told him of my sighting.
In 45 years of flying I haven't seen anything unexplained whilst flying.
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Wikipedia reports that over 1600 people genuinely believe that have been abducted by aliens!

But not one good photo.

Once again - the human power to self delude -including pilots- is unlimited.
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Dick, two crew operations. And called in cabin crew. And on different nights.
yes they all could have imagined it I guess.

Turin, do star link travel rapidly across the sky, stop and change direction? I’m familiar with the other thread 30W40W.

It wasn’t that long ago that pilot reports of lightning going up from thunder clouds into the stratosphere was considered preposterous and dismissed. Nowadays there is a good understanding of global electrical circuits and this lightning (sprites) has been observed scientifically and photographed.

There may be (and likely is) a non alien explanation.
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