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Dick Smith 2nd Oct 2023 23:43

Westall 1966 flying saucer incident
 
I have been talking to Andrew Greenwood, who was a teacher at Westall High School not far from Moorabbin Airport, when a UFO was sighted near the school on 6 April 1966. It has become quite famous – known as the Westall flying saucer incident. Here is a link to the Facebook page.

You might also like to look at the Wikipedia entry here.


Andrew Greenwood said that on the day, he and one of the other teachers rang the Moorabbin Tower to ask about four or five aircraft that were seen flying close to the UFO. Andrew says that the tower said there were no aircraft flying in that area at the time. This seems quite mysterious that the Tower would say that, considering the Westall High School was right on the boundary of the control zone.

Does anyone have any information on this, or does anyone know a controller who could have been present at the time?

I realise it is unlikely that any of the air traffic controllers operating the tower in 1966 are still around – however, there may have been a hand down of discussion or history of the Westall incident. It would be great if we could shed some extra light on this.

Lead Balloon 3rd Oct 2023 03:14

I spoke to a guy who said that while he was working as ATC in the YMRE TWR in the late 60s he saw objects of the same description heading in a north-westerly direction. Weeks later the first reports of the geoglyph that's now called 'The Maree Man' were made.

Spooky.

aroa 3rd Oct 2023 03:19

There were also ufo sightings in SA in the 60s at the time of the bomb tests at Maralinga.
Some objects were seen over Adelaide. All unexplained.
It was a great time for aeroplane spotters too with all the unusual UK stuff associated with that.
What year was the Bass Strait ufo episode?

Paul O'Rourke 3rd Oct 2023 04:47


Originally Posted by aroa (Post 11513359)
There were also ufo sightings in SA in the 60s at the time of the bomb tests at Maralinga.
Some objects were seen over Adelaide. All unexplained.
It was a great time for aeroplane spotters too with all the unusual UK stuff associated with that.
What year was the Bass Strait ufo episode?

It was the 20th / 21st October, 1978. George Simpson (Author) said a farmer in the Murray Bridge area had observed an aircraft stuck to the side of a ufo, a few days after Valentich’s disappearance. A few months ago I was chatting with some Cobden pilots. 2 of them said there was a chap in the Cape Otway area that witnessed the aircraft stuck to a ufo and the chap was recently living on the western side of warrnambool. Maybe the second witness read George’s book? If not, 2 witnesses corroborating the same story is interesting.

Dick Smith 3rd Oct 2023 05:56

Yes. The human power of imagination and self delusion is unlimited!

Squawk7700 3rd Oct 2023 07:29


Originally Posted by Paul O'Rourke (Post 11513382)
It was the 20th / 21st October, 1978. George Simpson (Author) said a farmer in the Murray Bridge area had observed an aircraft stuck to the side of a ufo, a few days after Valentich’s disappearance. A few months ago I was chatting with some Cobden pilots. 2 of them said there was a chap in the Cape Otway area that witnessed the aircraft stuck to a ufo and the chap was recently living on the western side of warrnambool. Maybe the second witness read George’s book? If not, 2 witnesses corroborating the same story is interesting.

Wreckage from Valentich’s aircraft was found on Flinders Island afterwards and the find was not made overtly public at the time. He was obsessed with UFO’s and it was clear that the whole thing was fabricated.

The Westall UFO sighting is possibly the most credible UFO sightings worldwide of all time. The sheer number of credible witnesses is compelling.

Dick Smith 3rd Oct 2023 11:37

Squawk. I suggest you key "false memory" into Wikipedia and you may have the answer.

Squawk7700 3rd Oct 2023 20:21


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 11513562)
Squawk. I suggest you key "false memory" into Wikipedia and you may have the answer.

I know the term well, it’s how our police force get convictions from witness statements!

Squawk7700 3rd Oct 2023 20:23

I might go to this, it’s just down the road from my place.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....edca9587d.jpeg

Capn Bloggs 4th Oct 2023 06:06


The human power of imagination and self delusion is unlimited!
You can say that again! :}​​​​​​​

thunderbird five 4th Oct 2023 06:30

VH-DSJ farmer’s sighting:

I tell you, I HATE IT when I'm flying my Cessna and some damn alien beams me up and sticks me to his ship. Bastards!

The entire VH-DSJ investigation docs 341 pages are available in www.naa.gov.au Fascinating reading.

Advance 4th Oct 2023 06:32

In Plain Sight
 
by Ross Coulthart

A lot of detailed sighting reports backed up by footnotes, references etc.

BUT it is of course up to you how much you believe. I found the reports mainly credible but it is the explanations that mostly lack solid evidence.

Still, I've read lots worse (like the aviation regs).

Lead Balloon 4th Oct 2023 07:52

At least these events did not involve the often typical and personally invasive behaviour of these despicable aliens: probing.

Dick Smith 4th Oct 2023 07:57

Why would 4 or 5 light aircraft be flying in that area.

It looks to be right on the control zone boundary.

Or was it all imagined?

Lead Balloon 4th Oct 2023 08:16

It's known as: "The Beaumaris Bay Black Hole".

Aircraft enter but are never seen again....

Squawk7700 4th Oct 2023 09:52

VH-DSJ according to Wikipedia:


According to his father, Guido, Valentich was an ardent believer in UFOs and had been worried about being attacked by them.[1]

​​​​​​​What is significant about the file, Mr Basterfield argues, is that for the first time it is revealed that parts of aircraft wreckage with partial serial numbers were found in Bass Strait five years after the disappearance. Mr Basterfield says Valentich's aircraft serial numbers fell within the range of those found on the wreckage,
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This is in a completely different ballgame to the Westall incident. Teachers, students and others all saw the Westall UFO. Credible witnesses, all with the exact same story.


Dick Smith 4th Oct 2023 10:03

I reckon it was most likely false memory!

Squawk. If not , where do you think the UFO came from and where did it go?

And what was it.

Squawk7700 4th Oct 2023 11:01


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 11514169)
I reckon it was most likely false memory!

Squawk. If not , where do you think the UFO came from and where did it go?

And what was it.

That all depends if you believe in UFO’s or not! It’s very different to believing in Santa!

This chap seems quite adamant and credible As to what he saw:


Dick Smith 4th Oct 2023 11:48

So what do you reckon " this chap" saw?

What could be the answer to the mystery?

Surely someone must have a suggestion re what happened

Squawk7700 4th Oct 2023 23:53


Originally Posted by Dick Smith (Post 11514229)

Surely someone must have a suggestion re what happened

If anyone will find this out, I reckon it will be you!

In the 57 years since, we haven’t invented silent VTOL and they sure as heck didn’t have it back then, so it’s either a weather balloon/lighter than air vehicle or a target drone that magically landed and took off again, or literally something from out of this world.

The military and police involvement certainly doesn’t fit with the idea that it was a weather balloon from Williamstown.

Back in those days, people were better at doing what they were told and keeping secrets. Whole Navy ship crews could be executed at sea and nobody would ever say a word.


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