$100K type rating bond???
The above mentioned company about to go into voluntary administration or shoring up their future? The grapevine rumours say 90% of their pilot workforce have moved on during the past couple of months to a large Brisbane based RPT/mining charter company. Engineering and admin staff have allegedly started being laid off in the past month and their CEO is allegedly in talks to hand back some of the leases they have at Newcastle Airport.
No expert but 747 rating probably $30-$40 k usd ? 737 less ? $100k I’d get a global 7500 rating . Guess this offer comes with a job ? Feel sorry for kids who get bitten by aviation bug these days . Best advice would be to marry well to have support required for career in aviation . Good luck !
As a small business employer I can't tell you how frustrating it is to invest limited time and money into a green, inexperienced employee ("I'm not going anywhere for yeaaaars") only to have them clear off 2 months later.
I had to put double the ICUS into one bloke this year to get him checked to line in a Baron. Two weeks later he gave notice that he was going to a Chieftain job.
These are the guys that destroy trust and force smaller GA employers, especially, to bond employees.
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Employees who are good for their word don't have bonds enforced on them.
As a small business employer I can't tell you how frustrating it is to invest limited time and money into a green, inexperienced employee ("I'm not going anywhere for yeaaaars") only to have them clear off 2 months later.
I had to put double the ICUS into one bloke this year to get him checked to line in a Baron. Two weeks later he gave notice that he was going to a Chieftain job.
These are the guys that destroy trust and force smaller GA employers, especially, to bond employees.
As a small business employer I can't tell you how frustrating it is to invest limited time and money into a green, inexperienced employee ("I'm not going anywhere for yeaaaars") only to have them clear off 2 months later.
I had to put double the ICUS into one bloke this year to get him checked to line in a Baron. Two weeks later he gave notice that he was going to a Chieftain job.
These are the guys that destroy trust and force smaller GA employers, especially, to bond employees.
Today the tap has to be adjusted to retain pilots, unfortunately that means a totally different approach to hiring. Almost no 20 something year old new CPL is going to hang around, unless you make them feel like demi gods, that is with pay and conditions GA probably can not afford. GA really needs to adjust the picture to attract senior pilots back to GA, yes the pay and conditions will have to make it worth it, but these guys will stick around given the right job, pay and working hours, which will make it cheaper than the constant training of low experienced guys that will probably wreck your planes anyway.
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Today the tap has to be adjusted to retain pilots, unfortunately that means a totally different approach to hiring. Almost no 20 something year old new CPL is going to hang around, unless you make them feel like demi gods, that is with pay and conditions GA probably can not afford. GA really needs to adjust the picture to attract senior pilots back to GA, yes the pay and conditions will have to make it worth it, but these guys will stick around given the right job, pay and working hours, which will make it cheaper than the constant training of low experienced guys that will probably wreck your planes anyway.
You made my point. Be a better employer.
Whilst HL is better off without this "pilot" doesn't help that he spent significant time and money. Also doesn't help that the legal system doesn't back him up.
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I have heard from a few ex pilots the type of progression that this fellow offers, you'd have to be a short sighted clown to leave under the circumstances that the "Chieftain" pilot left.
Whilst HL is better off without this "pilot" doesn't help that he spent significant time and money. Also doesn't help that the legal system doesn't back him up.
Whilst HL is better off without this "pilot" doesn't help that he spent significant time and money. Also doesn't help that the legal system doesn't back him up.
At some stage an astute potential employer may look at this guy’s logbooks and the interview could go something like this:
Interviewer: “ I see you logged 20 hours ICUS in Baron, then flew it for two weeks before changing jobs. Please explain”
Candidate: “ I saw a better career move would be to fly a Chieftain; the company I was with did not offer much by way of advancement” Etc.
A bit more probing, and these types unravel, especially if they bag a former employer, or show abnormal ICUS time on relatively simple aircraft.
For all the candidate knows, the interviewer may hold the initial employer in high regard, and/or call for a reference.
I was contacted to give a reference on a pilot who had below average skills and a poor attitude. Although one can decline to give a reference, giving a bad reference can lead to litigation, so I simply stated that I would not hesitate to recommend that pilot to any competitor.
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Unfortunately for HL the next step in the pilot/skills shortage will probably not benefit GA at all. With the rorts and poor conversion rate of the private subsidy system to actual working pilots I foresee the next tranche of subsidies to be direct to the airline cadet schemes. The cadet schemes will train their own instructors and feed cadets into other aspects of the business, like aeromedical and freight operations (not naming any company in particular). Having now a cost advantage and limited career pathways for outsiders and privately trained students it will drain a lot of local trainees from independent schools and industry. Unfortunately I see no other way the government will proceed if the perceived shortage gets any worse, especially if QF group starts playing it's hand. This will be the enemy, not overseas pilots or such.
Personally I hope the Baron pilot enjoys his new Chieftan job.
Where the hell do people think they have the right to hold someone back because it's inconvenient to an operator who has not contributed a brass razoo to that pilots CPL.
A 60 minute endorsement is a cost of doing business, FCOL, 20 hours ICUS is not a cost but is made to sound like the pilot made the right decision.
Where the hell do people think they have the right to hold someone back because it's inconvenient to an operator who has not contributed a brass razoo to that pilots CPL.
A 60 minute endorsement is a cost of doing business, FCOL, 20 hours ICUS is not a cost but is made to sound like the pilot made the right decision.
Just because you have paid for a CPL, doesn't give you the right to p!ss off soon after your employer had invested time and money into your employment.
I'd love Horatio to reveal what this pilot said during his / her interview with him.
I'd love Horatio to reveal what this pilot said during his / her interview with him.
Personally I hope the Baron pilot enjoys his new Chieftan job.
Where the hell do people think they have the right to hold someone back because it's inconvenient to an operator who has not contributed a brass razoo to that pilots CPL.
A 60 minute endorsement is a cost of doing business, FCOL, 20 hours ICUS is not a cost but is made to sound like the pilot made the right decision.
Like the chap that killed how many people in Launy going back a few years. The good ole 60 minute endorsement, the one that will come back to haunt whomever conducted it. I'm sure the insurance companies are just loving the 60 minute'rs as well.On the ICUS point, you haven't flown with the new crop of pilot right? Been a while?
Horatio is a big boy-girl, harden up, it's the real world.
Like a Melbourne tram drivers pay has got anything to do with anything. Heavily unionised workforce in a state where the fuhrer bribes unions for their electoral support. But great comparison, maybe compare to an industry where there's an oversupply of labour?
60 minute endorsement??
When I got endorsed on the Navajo, we packed six people in, changed seats in the air and got 'em ALL done in 60 minutes! It's not a complicated aircraft.
When I got endorsed on the Navajo, we packed six people in, changed seats in the air and got 'em ALL done in 60 minutes! It's not a complicated aircraft.
Better pay.
Better conditions.
Better treatment.
Progression... Type training or promotion.
The first 3 are within the gift of all employers. If as an employer you have tried the first 3 without success there is little you can do to hold on to an ambitious individual.
In my experience successive employers used number 4 more often, meanwhile, pay, T&Cs got worse and worse.
The worm has turned, good people are hard to come by and pay is finally getting back to being what it should be.