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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 01:56
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You do realise they just follow different rules, there is no freedom, like aviation has rules, we all operate to social rules. The US has some really dumb rules as well as some that are considered freedoms to some, can own an arsenal of guns, but cant have an abortion. Can buy a gun at 18 and use it much younger but cant drink until 21. In some states of the US it's illegal to disconnect from the power grid, even if you have solar with batteries and so on, where's the freedom there, slave to the corporations. Then there's all the massive social issues of race and rich vs poor and lack of safety net that leads to a very large crime issue in the lower classes. I'm more free to do what I want in Australia than in the US based on a number of things, especially free to go just about anywhere I want without fear of crime, guns or not. Does it mean Australia has more of a nanny state feel to it, of course, but it also means I don't have to carry a gun or knife to defend myself in certain places. If I fall on hard times I'd much rather live in Australia as well, become sick, injured or just old, I cant think of many countries I'd rather be.

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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 04:25
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No, I didn't realise there were different rules in the States, is there really? I thought they were exactly the same as us. Gees I'm ignorant, I must open my eyes next time I step out for a twinkie. Walking around in ignorant bliss must have protected me from the rampant crime that is just around every corner.

You're free to live wherever you want and I'm free to live stupid and free, howszat?
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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 04:44
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Point is that you were just picking on some stupid rules here, I could pick on some equally limiting stupid rules there. I feel more freedom to do what I want in Australia as the rules here don't butt up against my lifestyle, where some of the rules there would impinge on me via other ways. Everyone is different, but if you move countries because of some outlying rule that dampened your mojo for a couple of months vs living with annoying daily rules for the rest of your life to accommodate that move just 'because', well good on ya. If you think owning a gun is freedom, then fair enough, that's your view on that. I view freedom as being able to walk around 99% of my country without fear of crime or being arrested or harassed because of the color of my skin. And yes I have experienced the later in the US and some other overseas countries, to the point it was sad and scary. We have some nuts things here but not on the level I witnessed in the US.
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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 06:26
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I can own a gun as easily in Australia as in some states of the US. Interesting to note that by far, the most gun violence are in the states with the toughest and most restrictive gun laws, in some cases, tougher than Australia. Go to a concealed carry state, people tend to have much better manners than the people from others states with tougher gun laws, they tend to have far less crime as well.

You cherry pick quite a bit of the worst parts of the US when in fact the same problems exist in Australia. No democracy is perfect and every western country struggles with its colonial past. But nitpicking, stupid laws exist in far greater volume in Australia than the US. I have no problem walking around 99% of the states I've lived in, I know where not to go and where is safe, if you're wise you'll know where not to go in Australia. There are some suburbs that police stay clear of in this country as well.

or being arrested or harassed because of the color of my skin.
You're actually serious with this one? You're saying that profiling doesn't go on in Australia?
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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 08:09
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I can own a gun as easily in Australia as in some states of the US. Interesting to note that by far, the most gun violence are in the states with the toughest and most restrictive gun laws, in some cases, tougher than Australia. Go to a concealed carry state, people tend to have much better manners than the people from others states with tougher gun laws, they tend to have far less crime as well.
No idea where you got your stats from but some quick searches of the most dangerous cities in the US for violent crime all allow concealed carry and the top 2 being Detroit, concealed carry with permit, St Louis (long term top 3) No permit Concealed carry and regulars on the top list like New Orleans, Jackson, Memphis, most of which in states with no permit concealed carry. Too much listening to Fox news and not seeing the data. St Louis is considered one of the most dangerous cities in the world for violent crime... So maybe they are shooting each other with good manners.

You're actually serious with this one? You're saying that profiling doesn't go on in Australia?
There's a difference between stopping and asking questions and arresting, beating and degrading ethnic suspects. It does happen in Australia but nowhere near the scale in the US.

PS in 2020 Australia had 360 odd homicides throughout the entire country of 27million Aussies. St Louis had 270 Homicides in a population of 300,000, and that's repeated across a number of major cities that allow concealed carry across the US, so saying Australia is even remotely comparable to the US crime wise is just silly.

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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 09:26
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I don't watch Fox news mate, nor Sky. I don't watch any mainstream media news, nor do I read the Australian. You probably need to watch less CNN. And probably need to do more research, particularly on New York, Chicago and LA. If you want I can do a detailed breakdown on gun violence in the US, it will take a while.

There's a difference between stopping and asking questions and arresting, beating and degrading ethnic suspects. It does happen in Australia but nowhere near the scale in the US.
OK, that's awesome, I was concerned but just so long as it's not on the same scale. You had me thinking at one stage that Australia was this wonderful nirvana where whenever you get sick you get the best medical care, and when you're unemployed you get awesome unemployment benefits.

PS in 2020 Australia had 360 odd homicides throughout the entire country of 27million Aussies. St Louis had 270 Homicides in a population of 300,000, and that's repeated across a number of major cities that allow concealed carry across the US, so saying Australia is even remotely comparable to the US crime wise is just silly.
And this is the most awesome-ist part of prune, the bit where wild assumptions are made even though nothing was said on the assumption subject. Just where did I say that crime rates are comparable? You have your beliefs and bias, so do I. But one thing that isn't a bias is the overwhelming fact that most of Australia is a nanny state. You may see two years of closed international borders to the majority of people as a minor inconvenience, others with relatives barred from entering their own country may not. Most of the boomers are I'm alright Jack type of people, good for you.
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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 09:54
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There's no advice in your post to the OP!
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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 14:09
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How about that OP ? He's probably out looking for a different career !
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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 14:50
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
How about that OP ? He's probably out looking for a different career !
Despite all the moaning and whinging aviation is still a decent gig for most.

I think we can dispense with the USA crime vs guns debate, even though there’s been an increase in Australian pilots finding work opportunities in the US recently the majority of Australians training as pilots will end up having a career as a professional pilot based in this country. And even then I’d say the traditional Aussie expat pilot destinations like Asia would still be the prime employers of Australians who choose to head overseas.


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Old 22nd Jun 2022, 16:21
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Originally Posted by dr dre
...even though there’s been an increase in Australian pilots finding work opportunities in the US recently the majority of Australians training as pilots will end up having a career as a professional pilot based in this country.
Yep, that's my guess too.

Don't worry, we're just going to borrow a few of them for a while.

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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 06:31
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Many US airlines are headed to Australia to recruit pilots. There are some that have dates lined up in July to start sponsorships.
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 06:44
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There's no advice in your post to the OP!
Yeah........there was.
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Old 23rd Jun 2022, 15:28
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Take your time, in the early stages spend your money getting time as pilot in command rather than a swag of qualifications that you won't be able to use until you have plenty of...pilot in command time!

Don't fall into the fee-help loan trap.

Have another job, pay as you go and never, ever pay any money up front.

And do plenty of networking right from the start. It's a small industry and we all started where you are now.

Good luck!

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Old 24th Jun 2022, 15:13
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Originally Posted by Clare Prop
Take your time, in the early stages spend your money getting time as pilot in command rather than a swag of qualifications that you won't be able to use until you have plenty of...pilot in command time!

Don't fall into the fee-help loan trap.

Have another job, pay as you go and never, ever pay any money up front.

And do plenty of networking right from the start. It's a small industry and we all started where you are now.

Good luck!
Best advice!!!!!!
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