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What a politician should commit to before the election.

Old 29th Apr 2022, 08:31
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What a politician should commit to before the election.

I am currently preparing a Senate submission to the current Senate Inquiry into CASA. Whilst the submission is quite damming, I would like to finish with some positive suggestions. I would like to post one of those suggestions up here, and see what kind of feedback comes in. In the Submission i will draw the Senators attention to this thread, and they could draw on the comments in their considerations.

Suggestion Five

That the Government provide a one off grant of $500,000 over two years to AOPA.
It is a one off grant, and there is no commitment beyond the two years.
AOPA uses those funds to establish an Office with the purpose of developing business opportunities for the Australian Owned sector of the flight training industry.
The funding of $250,000 per annum is used to one Manager, one office staff, and travel.
The office would pursue opportunities for the sector to access international markets to train pilots, pursue Government grants for marketing and export development etc

At the conclusion of the two year period, a review would be conducted as to the effectiveness of the program.

Keen on thoughts, positive or negative, cheers. Glen

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Old 29th Apr 2022, 21:12
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If AOPA is offered and accepts a grant, then its usefulness to GA is finished for good because it can't then criticize Government policy.

With respect, your idea will do nothing but produce a big shiny report written by the incumbent and a whining request for a new grant before the first one expires.

The Government uses this form of "industry assistance" a lot. The government cannot be criticised in parliament for wasting money because the only deliverable is a report and AOPA has to shut up for foreseeable future about how the Government is mistreating GA. The technical term for this is 'buying silence".

Better idea - change the Act to require fostering Aviation then establishing an office within CASA / DOT to implement that.
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Better still ..Change the Act. Shut down/ demolish the current CAsA. Have an Aviation Department with a Flying/ GA industry background…with teeth.
The “corporatising” experiment has been a gross and dismal failure and is 20 years past its use by date.
Councils are into it too and got the CAsA bug… it’s all about “compliance” and paper warfare to keep themselves in a “job”

Chuck all Oz shelf ware. Adopt the USA regs in their entirety. Allow Instructors to Instruct .. from a grass strip in the boonies if that is where they are. Normal unfettered free enterprise.
Allow aircraft designers and builders to get on with raising an Australian aircraft industry without all the BS, red and green tape stymying innovation.

If free enterprise is allowed to run free, growth will naturally follow.

If by any chance there are changes to be made CAsA must be kept the hell out of it. They’ve had 30 years to fcuk the Industry. They have to go.

Dream on son there are way tooo many bureaurats with a grip on ‘power’ to let reality and freedom reign.
Vale, GA.
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edit Aviation Minister to have the background
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Old 1st May 2022, 12:46
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Speaking of politicians committing to something ahead of an election, Senator Rex Patrick released this in the last day or so:

PLEDGE TO FORCE A SWITCH TO US REGULATIONS IN RESPONSE TO GENERAL AVIATION 'MAYDAY' CALL


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Just remember that it was on Albanese's watch that master plans were approved to turn our airports into concrete jungles.
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Simples!!!!!!!!!! The truth and a successful lie detector test.
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How about a 'Citizen's Initiated Referendum'........IF 'they' don't keep their 'promises', then the citizens have the right to challenge 'them' by referendum and 'fire' them. -

With NO backpay or pension.
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I read this with great interest. He summarises the present state of GA very well.

https://www.rexpatrick.com.au/pledge...UNaEjiibP3eabw

Unfortunately as an Independent his propose Bill will be lucky to reach the debate stage.

In our system of Government (and in most democracies) sadly a vote for an independent is probably a wasted vote.
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Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO View Post
How about a 'Citizen's Initiated Referendum'........IF 'they' don't keep their 'promises', then the citizens have the right to challenge 'them' by referendum and 'fire' them. -

With NO backpay or pension.
A process similar in effect has existed in a number of countries worldwide for years. Its called "Right of Recall" legislation,A defined number of electors in the particular juristiction can cause that member to be unseated an a new election called.Its how Arnie got the California gig. Just imagine how much better Australia would now be if we had access to this privilege!!!!!!
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Unfortunately as an Independent his propose Bill will be lucky to reach the debate stage.

In our system of Government (and in most democracies) sadly a vote for an independent is probably a wasted vote.
You've neatly articulated why we have the regulatory mess we have. The good news is that the non-aligned party vote has been steadily increasing and your "probably wasted" is slowly decreasing in probability, which is scaring the major parties. Whether it's enough this time around remains to be seen.

The funny thing is that most coalition governments are minority governments. That's why there's a coalition agreement: To quickly resolve who has supply and confidence in the event the Liberals haven't inspired the population to give the Liberals government in their own right. Of course, the Nationals would never depart from their coalition partner's policies.
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