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Old 29th May 2023, 11:39
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If the aircraft had gone around, while suffering wind induced controllability issues
The only wind mentioned in the report was 020º at 6 kt. You can barely fly a kite in that.

So you have got yourself boxed in low to the ground and can see jack yet you are going to attempt a go-around and try and outclimb hills you can't see?
Well, that's what compasses are for, eh? And I think that the point is, if you can't see the hills and they are close enough to be an issue, then you don't have the visibility to be there in the first place.
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Old 30th May 2023, 00:23
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You have to carry an alternate for remote islands under the new regulations.

The suggesstion that there is a situation where a go around is more unsafe than actually landing in that conditions are telling. Your in less than VMC, at the bottom of a DME Arrival, in a no circling area in less than VMC and cant see obstacles in the circiling area when below the circling MDA but apparantly that much safer than flying the published MAP which provides obstacle clearence or just doing the RNP.
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Old 30th May 2023, 02:16
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Has there? I couldn’t find any references, (apart from the Catalina in 1948, with the wreckage still on the hill), but maybe looking in the wrong place.
My bad. Ignore the 'fatal' bit and you'll find there are a few one-way flights to the island, mostly before the airport was built.

This one was interesting: https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications.../aair199001981 In short: "It was determined that the Captain had made some mis-calculations in his pre-flight assessments."

The ERSA entry lists quite a few obstacles on the ground for an errant pilot to hit. It certainly isn't a pace to mess around:
Because of the topography of Lord Howe certain wind COND may generate SEV TURB in the APCH to the RWY and preclude a safe LDG. The only safe course of action in such cases is to divert to a mainland AD. The Bureau of Meteorology is not able to FCST SEV TURB in all cases. The final responsibility for the safe conduct of a flight to Lord Howe rests with the pilot in command who must consider the possibility of a diversion to a mainland AD should TURB preclude a safe APCH.
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Old 30th May 2023, 23:41
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Doing the RNP would have been the better option as at least that gives you a published missed approach. A DME arrival gives you a published missed approach if you are not visual at the end of it. When you a circling the only missed approach guidance is to turn towards the runway and do the best you can to avoid the terrain. Like I said this bloke had put himself into a game of Russian roulette. His choice basically was a forced landing somewhere in the runway environment or a high chance of CFIT. On this occasion he and his passengers walked off the aircraft, the bullet was not in the chamber. Next time not so lucky
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Old 31st May 2023, 09:59
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We should be celebrating the fact that the report only took 15 months to come out :-)
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