The Death of Streamer-cutting and Flour-Bombing.
There also tends to be a bit of fixedwing-centricity about many of these changes (and responses here) which overlooks the enormous amount of rotary ops which go on day-by-day and could be affected by interpretations of this latest legalese nightmare.
So this clearly means that the next generation of freight pilots in non pressurised aircraft will be denied the sublime pleasure of peeing into a bottle and then watching said contents of bottle being sucked out of an open vent window.
Yet another of life’s little pleasures slowly but inexorably being removed by zealous bureaucrats.
Yet another of life’s little pleasures slowly but inexorably being removed by zealous bureaucrats.
Might be worth reading CAO 29.5. Admittedly, CAOs will be gone in the early 2000s when the new simple, outcomes-based regulations are completed, but 29.5 is still in force for the time being.
The bits quoted from Part 91 of CASR merely replicate that which was in CAR for decades. But some people have made lots of money spending decades taking them out of CAR and putting them into CASR. Don’t you feel safer?
The bits quoted from Part 91 of CASR merely replicate that which was in CAR for decades. But some people have made lots of money spending decades taking them out of CAR and putting them into CASR. Don’t you feel safer?
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Interesting the threads popping up as various folk and operators find and start understand the reality of these changes etc.
This again falls at CASA's feet.
Maybe a new thread covering the overall implications of 119 etc is needed?
There are real issues and implications that a lot of GA operators don't get, and it will come at a cost.
A lot cannot be compliant.
This again falls at CASA's feet.
Maybe a new thread covering the overall implications of 119 etc is needed?
There are real issues and implications that a lot of GA operators don't get, and it will come at a cost.
A lot cannot be compliant.
Tiger Club Turb Team No go area/Country
Is this a definite no for the Tiger Club Turbulent Team to visit for one of their famous low level, formation, tied together, flour bombing, under the hoops, balloon bursting, streamer cutting (toilet rolls), non radio, permit aircraft, VW powered, garden parties. Thats a shame they were so popular before nerds ruled the earth.
CASA Cancel All Sensible Aviation, or Campaign Against Sustainable Aviation. Makes you weep..
I might add that we had strict rules and quality control, Toilet rolls should be warmed in advance to ensure a good 'stream', and McDougal's self raising flour used for good spread effect.
CASA Cancel All Sensible Aviation, or Campaign Against Sustainable Aviation. Makes you weep..
I might add that we had strict rules and quality control, Toilet rolls should be warmed in advance to ensure a good 'stream', and McDougal's self raising flour used for good spread effect.
Hey Megan, Re Your # 18.....
At the 'Old Fliers Group' (JT) we were being regaled with a story of the 'early days' of WA newspaper deliveries to Country towns.
The ex RAAF Hudson aircraft did not have the time to land at various destinations, and it was too expensive anyway, so the bundles were simply pushed out by the 'kid in the back' at the appropriate shout from the pilot.
Our raconteur tells of the time he pushed out a large bundle, exactly on the shout, and it landed IN the back of the waiting ute.....a direct hit......and ....ALAS....said ute was never to be driven again.
Nobody was in the ute, that was part of the procedure, the guys on the ground were all watching the aircraft of course, no doubt taking bets on how far from them the papers would land, like they usually did.
Nobody was injured, No animals were harmed /sacrificed and they eventually got a new ute!
(Which they never took out to the airport......)
TROO STORY !!
At the 'Old Fliers Group' (JT) we were being regaled with a story of the 'early days' of WA newspaper deliveries to Country towns.
The ex RAAF Hudson aircraft did not have the time to land at various destinations, and it was too expensive anyway, so the bundles were simply pushed out by the 'kid in the back' at the appropriate shout from the pilot.
Our raconteur tells of the time he pushed out a large bundle, exactly on the shout, and it landed IN the back of the waiting ute.....a direct hit......and ....ALAS....said ute was never to be driven again.
Nobody was in the ute, that was part of the procedure, the guys on the ground were all watching the aircraft of course, no doubt taking bets on how far from them the papers would land, like they usually did.
Nobody was injured, No animals were harmed /sacrificed and they eventually got a new ute!
(Which they never took out to the airport......)
TROO STORY !!
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It’s interesting that its a ‘strict liability’. What if my EFB that Im using overheats and bursts into flame; am I liable if I eject that out the window to stop it from burning me and the interior of the plane?
With the new rules now in place, Articles of food are no longer permitted to be dropped form aircraft. Does this mean we have seen the death of streamer cutting and flour bombing in these new regulations? If so that is a bleak end to a tradition of Aviation and a true travesty.
Dropping of ashes would probably need to be done by an Aerial work operator. The same for dropping relief supplies.
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Of course: An interaction with the regulator and payment of a fee required. Thank heavens they have a form for it.
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Anyone partaking this activity these days may want to phone there insurance broker,as i did last year,his answer when i asked would i be still covered (include short field landings too)
was "it would be 50/50,i took it that i would have a fight on my hands with any accident claim.Colin
was "it would be 50/50,i took it that i would have a fight on my hands with any accident claim.Colin
Back years ago when insurance companies were more local and personable you could get away with being stupid and the insurance would still agree to cover an amount relative to the stupid displayed. Not sure how the newer larger corporations react to acts outside the normal. If your aircraft is already insured for ab-initio training you are probably covered for most other things risk wise. If you are only covered for private use with hour restrictions etc the answer could be completely different.
Honestly, this thread is better located in the humour forum. Take your good selves and CASA a little less seriously. It’s a big country, they can’t enforce every ridiculous rule that some sociopath at HQ dreams up.
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But this isn't the UK, hence the Forum Title and thread about CASA.
There also tends to be a bit of fixedwing-centricity about many of these changes (and responses here) which overlooks the enormous amount of rotary ops which go on day-by-day and could be affected by interpretations of this latest legalese nightmare.
There also tends to be a bit of fixedwing-centricity about many of these changes (and responses here) which overlooks the enormous amount of rotary ops which go on day-by-day and could be affected by interpretations of this latest legalese nightmare.
I have a *friend* that has not done a beat-up since the iPhone was invented.
The bits quoted from Part 91 of CASR merely replicate that which was in CAR for decades. But some people have made lots of money spending decades taking them out of CAR and putting them into CASR. Don’t you feel safer?
Someone will need to come up with a new smiley euphemism for unintended consequences - 'minor flow-on effects' perhaps?