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Restricted payload Queenstown

Old 21st Sep 2021, 12:34
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Restricted payload Queenstown

Anyone operating in and out of Queenstown that could share some information in regards to being restricted due fairly short Runway?
Would be nice to know how often this happens.
Would it make any difference if EMAS was installed and you would get another 100m of LDA/ASDA/TORA
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 23:01
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Houses one end, big drop-off and river at the other. RESAs are already the required length (bulk earthworks at one end to achieve this).
Real estate is limited in the valley and comes at a premium (at least it did pre-COVID).
It is and should be treated as an exclusive destination on the doorstep of multiple ski-fields in a gorgeous part of the world.
If you want to move payload, fly to Christchurch and hire a couple of buses
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 01:50
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Ka life, welcome to the thread.. I suspect DR fears you may represent competition commercially and for decades Queenstown was seen as the Mt Cook Airlines domain, the airline being absorbed into Air New Zealand in recent times. Physically the airport has a high degree of difficulty due weather and terrain. Some degree of familiarisation and training is advisable. R-Nav approach capability would be an advantage, when I retired V-nav was unavailable (due more to airborne installation rather than approach certification.)
airport aircraft overnight parking is hideously expensive, and unavailable at times. Whatever your intention, good luck and it is a great part of the world.

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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 09:08
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Queenstown has for the moment required RESA but not recommended RESA.
The Idea would be to extend ASDA, LDA, TORA with implementing EMAS system. Maybe around 100-150 meter extra.
The EMAS would cover the recommended RESA requirement and with improved declared distance I would like to calculate the commercial aspect of this also.
Anyway thanks for the help to all except DR who must be an amateur pilot.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 21:36
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Ka life, I think I understand your query now. Queenstown can be considered a single runway case, and always will be due to terrain and the cost of real estate. When we use say 05, we can’t bring the 23 EMaS area into ASDA or TORA because I can’t taxi onto it or line-up in it. (my individual take-off charts decreed generally we were accel/stop limited) Therefore what I gained landing on 23; I lost departing on 05. NZQN has ATC control and duty runway can change throughout the day. The types I flew were always departure limited, but accommodated a reasonable international load albeit at reduced engine TBOs.
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