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Can anyone help me via PM please.
Looking for information on how a mark Haslam and John Moore of casa conduct investigations.
Are they fair??
Do they make stuff up??
Looking for information on how a mark Haslam and John Moore of casa conduct investigations.
Are they fair??
Do they make stuff up??
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A can of worms there!
Everyone will have a different opinion and there is one thread on here I am sure you have read, if not read it!
Oh I could tell a story or two, however the years snd beers have probably embellished them!
Everyone will have a different opinion and there is one thread on here I am sure you have read, if not read it!
Oh I could tell a story or two, however the years snd beers have probably embellished them!
I had a visit years ago from LARARD (retired ;hurt; early), CLARK (bolted) and RETSKI (still there !)
The tarmac trio were supposed to be AWIs but they demonstrated most admirably that they should not be allowed anywhere near a kids Tonka truck let alone an aeroplane.
Found by the AFP as I had alleged.to the then CEO Byron , then McComic, Carmody et al.....perjury and conspiracy. Serious crimes for you and me . CasA spent 100s of thousands of dollars in a arse covering /perverting exercise...so not for them Great place to work !
All nicely off the hook, due the excellent legal buggery by all including Dr Discrepancy aka Smart Aleck.and the gang.
Nothing has changed since then Denmark might be just rotten but CAsA is PUTRID...
Jusk ask John Quadrio, Kilin Panovich and many others
The tarmac trio were supposed to be AWIs but they demonstrated most admirably that they should not be allowed anywhere near a kids Tonka truck let alone an aeroplane.
Found by the AFP as I had alleged.to the then CEO Byron , then McComic, Carmody et al.....perjury and conspiracy. Serious crimes for you and me . CasA spent 100s of thousands of dollars in a arse covering /perverting exercise...so not for them Great place to work !
All nicely off the hook, due the excellent legal buggery by all including Dr Discrepancy aka Smart Aleck.and the gang.
Nothing has changed since then Denmark might be just rotten but CAsA is PUTRID...
Jusk ask John Quadrio, Kilin Panovich and many others
CASAinvestigators
If your statement is correct and you are doing a research project, I strongly suggest you read through my thread running in another forum. https://www.pprune.org/australia-new...ss-v-casa.html
CASA has an enforcement manual that is supposed to protect participants in the industry and assure natural justice, procedural fairness, and adherence to Administrative Law.
In my case they reversed their approval on my business overnight, with no prior warning, and not on the basis of safety or any regulatory breaches. In Part 6 of the enforcement manual it attends to AOC Variations, requirements for a "Show Cause Notice (SCN) etc. All procedures completely bypassed and I lost everything.
If you read through the post in its entirety and are keen to chat, please contact me. I've got heaps on the way CASA or individuals within CASA i.e. CASA Executive Legal, International, and Regulatory Affairs conduct themselves.
An ABC investigative piece was done on the 7.30 report. It concerned a breakdown of CASA processes and procedures. Unfortunately, the CASAs target on that occasion passed away before from cancer before he could rectify the situation. In my case, it was the exact same two individuals, Mr. Aleck and Mr. Martin.
You will be able to complete a Doctorate on these fellows. Rest assured.
The same two names keep coming up again and again. The Chair of the Board will sit impotently by and let these unsafe creatures continue. This fish rots from the head first. Complicit leadership im afraid, all the way to the Chair of the Board of CASA.
CASA has an enforcement manual that is supposed to protect participants in the industry and assure natural justice, procedural fairness, and adherence to Administrative Law.
In my case they reversed their approval on my business overnight, with no prior warning, and not on the basis of safety or any regulatory breaches. In Part 6 of the enforcement manual it attends to AOC Variations, requirements for a "Show Cause Notice (SCN) etc. All procedures completely bypassed and I lost everything.
If you read through the post in its entirety and are keen to chat, please contact me. I've got heaps on the way CASA or individuals within CASA i.e. CASA Executive Legal, International, and Regulatory Affairs conduct themselves.
An ABC investigative piece was done on the 7.30 report. It concerned a breakdown of CASA processes and procedures. Unfortunately, the CASAs target on that occasion passed away before from cancer before he could rectify the situation. In my case, it was the exact same two individuals, Mr. Aleck and Mr. Martin.
You will be able to complete a Doctorate on these fellows. Rest assured.
The same two names keep coming up again and again. The Chair of the Board will sit impotently by and let these unsafe creatures continue. This fish rots from the head first. Complicit leadership im afraid, all the way to the Chair of the Board of CASA.
LIKE !! In multiples, gb
The C & E Manuel is a big heavy book that the CAsA "safety" fundamntalists can beat you over the head with. So much for their fairy floss phrases ..;natural justice, due process....Just bloody piffle !!
The contents of which they blythly ingnore while they go about the business of destroying you and yr business.
And having had a win however, by whatever it takes, legal or otherwise, they just swan off and do it all, again eslewhere.
Its a sorry sign of the times when elected Governments have outsourced "governance" to unelected bureaurats who get drunk with the resultant power.
CAsA is a classic example of how to go completely ape over the myth of safety and develop into this hideous industry and job destroying monster. Sucking the blood of GA and killing the host.
We need more than just garlic and stakes.
The C & E Manuel is a big heavy book that the CAsA "safety" fundamntalists can beat you over the head with. So much for their fairy floss phrases ..;natural justice, due process....Just bloody piffle !!
The contents of which they blythly ingnore while they go about the business of destroying you and yr business.
And having had a win however, by whatever it takes, legal or otherwise, they just swan off and do it all, again eslewhere.
Its a sorry sign of the times when elected Governments have outsourced "governance" to unelected bureaurats who get drunk with the resultant power.
CAsA is a classic example of how to go completely ape over the myth of safety and develop into this hideous industry and job destroying monster. Sucking the blood of GA and killing the host.
We need more than just garlic and stakes.
Have a read of the book.."From Hero to Zero" about the DC3 that ditched into Botany Bay about 25 years ago. The aircraft was clearly not airworthy yet CASA stitched up the pilot for negligence ,while the owners and maintenance company got off scott free.
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What the investigator should do
From the Canadian university information set:
Looking at the casA manual, essentially the same applies.
it is not up to the investigator to assess whether the court will accept the information or not......
This begs the question as to why there are so many reports of moore and haslam changing witness statements
When considering the issues of witness competence and compellability, an investigator must keep in mind that the evidence collected from certain witnesses, such as spouses, children, and persons of low mental capacity, may be subjected to these rules. Exemptions for witness testimony and exclusion of the evidence may occur at trial (R v Khan, 1990; Justice Canada, 2017).
That said, during the investigation, it remains within the purview of the investigator to assess the information and evidence collected, and to consider that evidence when forming reasonable grounds to believe and take action. When considering the nature of the information and evidence received, it is not up to the investigator to assess whether the court will accept the information or not. The investigator’s use of the information and evidence received from a spouse, a child, or a person of low mental capacity should not be discounted in forming reasonable grounds simply in anticipation of a possible exemption of the witness and exclusion of evidence by the court. If the person giving the information or evidence is assessed as being a credible witness, the investigator should consider that material and give it fair weight in forming reasonable grounds for belief.
https://pressbooks.bccampus.ca/crimi...ss-management/
That said, during the investigation, it remains within the purview of the investigator to assess the information and evidence collected, and to consider that evidence when forming reasonable grounds to believe and take action. When considering the nature of the information and evidence received, it is not up to the investigator to assess whether the court will accept the information or not. The investigator’s use of the information and evidence received from a spouse, a child, or a person of low mental capacity should not be discounted in forming reasonable grounds simply in anticipation of a possible exemption of the witness and exclusion of evidence by the court. If the person giving the information or evidence is assessed as being a credible witness, the investigator should consider that material and give it fair weight in forming reasonable grounds for belief.
https://pressbooks.bccampus.ca/crimi...ss-management/
it is not up to the investigator to assess whether the court will accept the information or not......
This begs the question as to why there are so many reports of moore and haslam changing witness statements
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CASA may not initiate the regulations (well, at least in theory) but the DAS seems to think CASA staff have discretionary powers which I can not find substantiated in the Act or CASR's? From the CASA Enforcement Manual:
Frequently?? I guess that is how some CASA staff manage to look after their mates and avoid any complicity in, for example, one of Australia's worst airline fatal accidents in recent years?
Most of the regulatory decisions CASA makes are such that conformity with authoritative policy and established procedures will be conducive to the achievement of these outcomes. Frequently, however, decision-makers will encounter situations in which the strict application of policy may not be appropriate. In such cases, striking a proper balance between the need for consistency and a corresponding need for flexibility, the responsible exercise of discretion is required.
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Good practice in taking witness statements
The mark haslam and john moore method is to have long gaps between the event and taking a statement.
Again the following from the Canadian University notes says:
So the haslam and moore technique will result in copious opportunities to "jig" the statement to what they want.
TAKE CARE if you are ever interviewed by casA.
Again the following from the Canadian University notes says:
Time elapsed between the event and the interview. A critical aspect of gaining the best account of events from any witness is making sure that the interview happens at the earliest opportunity. It is a practice in police investigation to make every effort to identify and interview witnesses as soon as possible.
As a simple exercise to demonstrate the importance of finding and interviewing witness quickly, take a piece of paper and to the best of your ability, write down the details of your day starting at the beginning of the day three days ago.
If you are like most people, you have some level of daily structure to your life. From that structure, perhaps you will recall you got out of bed at a usual time. Maybe you went to work or stopped at the gym or at your favourite coffee shop on the way to work.
These benchmarks of your daily routine may be easily remembered.
But, on your way to work, did you happen to see a green van with extensive damage to the front end on the street near your home?
Of course, this is a fictitious question, but this would be the kind of inconsequential daily observation information you might be asked to recall by police canvassing for witnesses to a crime.Understanding this time limited aspect of human memory, investigators need to consider how much weight they can place on the accuracy of information being recounted by a witness. If a witness is providing a remarkably accurate recollection of something being recounted from any distance in the past, it is a good idea to ask that person how they can recall what should be a mundane event with such a degree of accuracy or clarity. If they are correct, the witness will sometimes provide a memory trigger that made them notice and causes them to recall. For example, a witness may answer, “Yes, I remember that green van with all the damage to the front end because my brother has a green van just like that and I looked at the driver and saw that it wasn’t my brother. I looked at it even closer because I had never seen that van on my street before.”
As a simple exercise to demonstrate the importance of finding and interviewing witness quickly, take a piece of paper and to the best of your ability, write down the details of your day starting at the beginning of the day three days ago.
- What did you do?
- Where did you go?
- Who did you see?
If you are like most people, you have some level of daily structure to your life. From that structure, perhaps you will recall you got out of bed at a usual time. Maybe you went to work or stopped at the gym or at your favourite coffee shop on the way to work.
These benchmarks of your daily routine may be easily remembered.
But, on your way to work, did you happen to see a green van with extensive damage to the front end on the street near your home?
Of course, this is a fictitious question, but this would be the kind of inconsequential daily observation information you might be asked to recall by police canvassing for witnesses to a crime.Understanding this time limited aspect of human memory, investigators need to consider how much weight they can place on the accuracy of information being recounted by a witness. If a witness is providing a remarkably accurate recollection of something being recounted from any distance in the past, it is a good idea to ask that person how they can recall what should be a mundane event with such a degree of accuracy or clarity. If they are correct, the witness will sometimes provide a memory trigger that made them notice and causes them to recall. For example, a witness may answer, “Yes, I remember that green van with all the damage to the front end because my brother has a green van just like that and I looked at the driver and saw that it wasn’t my brother. I looked at it even closer because I had never seen that van on my street before.”
TAKE CARE if you are ever interviewed by casA.
One other thing to note - you do not have the right to silence when dealing with CAsA in some areas, however any information obtained in this manner cannot be used against you criminally. But there's nothing stopping CAsA using it for Administrative action....
It should be a given that all people entering the aviation environment in Oz should be made aware of the fact that smiley, benign CAsA officers with an agenda/seeking brownie points ./on the hunt for a "hit"... are NOT your friends.
When approached by ANY CAsA person/s you must ensure you have the means to note down, record, video any conversation, with a witness for yourself if possible...YOU must protect yourself,
Because if you dont you may find you end up in a very torrid and expensive situation. They can cobble up a Mt Everest from a fly spot is they are are on a mission. Believe me, I know.
Years ago I had a person come into my hangar unannounced, and called out 'who owns all that crated warbird parts?
CAsA does have introduction protocols, ID name, business, permission to enter etc ,, but they are blythly ignored.. When asked who he was he gave his name as Ernest Dalgliesh from CAsA.
Since I had been abused by him and some other colleagues over other issues in the past, I impolitely requested that he vacate the premises. I hadnt gone anywhere near him, and he departed in haste.
Two weeks later I received a Summons for Threatening Commonwelth officer. !
Which shows how these people can spend their time wasting taxpayers money just to let you know who's
"holding the cat". Court.?.He never showed up.
Wth the 3 Tarmac Amigos, I even adised the C & E lady, who kept sending me penalty notices, but wouldnt tell me what they were for ie :illegal maintenance: ...but what was it ?
"No perjury this time please!. Fell on deaf ears. A story had to be made up to validate the crime,
See.. whatever it takes. The sooner we get a Fedreral ICAC the better.
When approached by ANY CAsA person/s you must ensure you have the means to note down, record, video any conversation, with a witness for yourself if possible...YOU must protect yourself,
Because if you dont you may find you end up in a very torrid and expensive situation. They can cobble up a Mt Everest from a fly spot is they are are on a mission. Believe me, I know.
Years ago I had a person come into my hangar unannounced, and called out 'who owns all that crated warbird parts?
CAsA does have introduction protocols, ID name, business, permission to enter etc ,, but they are blythly ignored.. When asked who he was he gave his name as Ernest Dalgliesh from CAsA.
Since I had been abused by him and some other colleagues over other issues in the past, I impolitely requested that he vacate the premises. I hadnt gone anywhere near him, and he departed in haste.
Two weeks later I received a Summons for Threatening Commonwelth officer. !
Which shows how these people can spend their time wasting taxpayers money just to let you know who's
"holding the cat". Court.?.He never showed up.
Wth the 3 Tarmac Amigos, I even adised the C & E lady, who kept sending me penalty notices, but wouldnt tell me what they were for ie :illegal maintenance: ...but what was it ?
"No perjury this time please!. Fell on deaf ears. A story had to be made up to validate the crime,
See.. whatever it takes. The sooner we get a Fedreral ICAC the better.
I had a visit years ago from LARARD (retired ;hurt; early), CLARK (bolted) and RETSKI (still there !)
The tarmac trio were supposed to be AWIs but they demonstrated most admirably that they should not be allowed anywhere near a kids Tonka truck let alone an aeroplane.
Found by the AFP as I had alleged.to the then CEO Byron , then McComic, Carmody et al.....perjury and conspiracy. Serious crimes for you and me . CasA spent 100s of thousands of dollars in a arse covering /perverting exercise...so not for them Great place to work !
All nicely off the hook, due the excellent legal buggery by all including Dr Discrepancy aka Smart Aleck.and the gang.
Nothing has changed since then Denmark might be just rotten but CAsA is PUTRID...
Jusk ask John Quadrio, Kilin Panovich and many others
The tarmac trio were supposed to be AWIs but they demonstrated most admirably that they should not be allowed anywhere near a kids Tonka truck let alone an aeroplane.
Found by the AFP as I had alleged.to the then CEO Byron , then McComic, Carmody et al.....perjury and conspiracy. Serious crimes for you and me . CasA spent 100s of thousands of dollars in a arse covering /perverting exercise...so not for them Great place to work !
All nicely off the hook, due the excellent legal buggery by all including Dr Discrepancy aka Smart Aleck.and the gang.
Nothing has changed since then Denmark might be just rotten but CAsA is PUTRID...
Jusk ask John Quadrio, Kilin Panovich and many others
