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Student Pilot - Cessna crash into hangar

Old 9th Sep 2020, 08:04
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Originally Posted by cattletruck View Post
Wouldn't have happened if they started him off on a Tiger Moth (and not because it's got a stick).




'cause no one has ever ground looped a Tiger Moth...
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 09:03
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Originally Posted by Spunky Monkey View Post
It is quite obvious to anyone who has an instructional background he started to do everything he was taught.
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Good luck to the student, I am glad he wasn't too badly hurt, that he provided us all with some valuable learning experience and hope that this doesn't put him off flying.
All this
And great that he had a camera, so we can learn on his mistakes.

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Old 9th Sep 2020, 09:55
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And great that he had a camera, so we can learn on his mistakes.
Umm, there is something wrong here. Personally I don't ever allow students to carry a camera solo and I can't begin to condone the idea. If indeed the footage is real, perhaps he was frigging with the camera controls instead of looking after the plane? Perhaps I am old fashioned? Do any of you instructors out there permit students to set up cameras prior to solo flights? Surely you are learning to fly, not making a movie for your mates on social media?
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 10:17
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After my first solo almost fifty years ago, my instructor told me my landing was just about perfect and that I should not expect to land like that every time. Considering I'd been a little unnerved by being buzzed by a large and illegally-flown R/C model aircraft halfway down my crosswind leg (it came within a few feet of the windshield) I was pretty chuffed that I'd brought back the aircraft in one piece. He said that for many student pilots, their first landing was often the best of their career. Often it was quite unforgettable.

I'd venture our hero didn't get a similar talk, but his first solo landing will be just as unforgettable. But he walked away, that's what counts.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 11:45
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I hope the subject gets back into the cockpit and flies again. Nobody is perfect when learning.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 15:32
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Originally Posted by havick View Post
How do you solo an aircraft that required more than one pilot?
easy, just break the law...all you really need is the FE anyway

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Old 10th Sep 2020, 01:04
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus View Post
easy, just break the law...all you really need is the FE anyway
Very true, the Capt generally lacks the hand flying skills anyway.

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Old 10th Sep 2020, 01:25
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Originally Posted by Pugilistic Animus View Post
Back in the old days of flying...if you crashed, and survived and weren't too badly injured, you were told to go right back to the hangar and get another airplane the same day...this was done so that the student didn't turn yellow.
This is exactly what we do in PFC, but we do a Dual first to make sure student's competency.
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Old 10th Sep 2020, 04:51
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Originally Posted by jonkster View Post




'cause no one has ever ground looped a Tiger Moth...
​​​​​​ Ah I see, cool!
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Old 10th Sep 2020, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Kwun Cheung View Post
This is exactly what we do in PFC, but we do a Dual first to make sure student's competency.
what is PFC?

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Old 12th Sep 2020, 15:35
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
So you never had a billycart as a kid?
Nope. Plus, we wouldn't have called what I think you refer to by that name.
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Old 14th Sep 2020, 17:55
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
I'd be more concerned about the instructor/s who taught this guy and especially the one that authorised solo flight! I mean we are talking about a C172 here one if the most benign training A/C on the market! You are meant to be competent to go solo. To stuff this up so badly means someone out there needs some attention also!
Students make mistakes, experienced pilots make mistakes.
Thats all there is to it.
Out of the 1300-1400 fatalities in GA in the US maybe 99.9% are certificated more “experienced” pilots.
Most dings and scrapes and scares are student pilots, rarely fatal though.
Food for thought.
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