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josephfeatherweight 7th Sep 2020 10:07

Student Pilot - Cessna crash into hangar
 
Not sure if this has been posted - let me know if it has and I'll delete.
Apparently he escaped with only minor injuries - very lucky to even be alive.
I really feel for this guy - sent solo too early and without some of the basics nailed down - like using the rudder pedals.


Squawk7700 7th Sep 2020 10:51

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Ascend Charlie 7th Sep 2020 10:53

Hmmm.. use rudder to stay on runway...didn't work....throttle to idle, apply brakes. No no no, try to take off and fly over the hangar, that's a better idea....

Bare Plane 7th Sep 2020 11:01

are you sure this guy was a student and not some pedestrian trying to steal a plane?

cattletruck 7th Sep 2020 11:18

Waiting for someone to post the METAR.


josephfeatherweight 7th Sep 2020 11:42


didn't work....throttle to idle, apply brakes
I think the concept that "If the landing isn't going well, you can always go-around." was one of the things that HAD been cemented in his mind - it just didn't really apply in this particular situation.
What does amaze me (and it's probably a generational thing) is that a student pilot, presumably on a very early solo, finds the need to set up a camera and record his endeavors.
The distraction of mounting it, setting it up, remembering to turn it on - it's all preparation that shouldn't feature in the preparation of a solo flight, surely?
Or maybe I'm just an old git. Or is this something that flying schools do now?

Meester proach 7th Sep 2020 11:48

It’s the modern day vanity ,

Record everything you do because it’s sooo interesting .

But then airline FOs are some of the worst offenders for YouTube vanity .

I think the worst are when there’s a running commentary ... concentrate , dammit

The Fat Controller 7th Sep 2020 11:56

Already being discussed on a thread started 4 days ago here

https://www.pprune.org/accidents-clo...other-day.html

josephfeatherweight 7th Sep 2020 12:02


Originally Posted by The Fat Controller (Post 10880037)
Already being discussed on a thread started 4 days ago here

https://www.pprune.org/accidents-clo...other-day.html

Thanks for the link - apologies for starting a new thread - had a (very) quick look but didn't find anything in my normal "go to" haunts...

machtuk 7th Sep 2020 13:33

Yep full right aileron really helps to turn away from the hangar! How do these people get a ticket to drive a plane?

Two's in 7th Sep 2020 15:55

Well done all you aviation warriors who clearly have no recollection of learning to fly. This "student" has zero muscle memory for what to do when things go wrong, his brain immediately fails to process the directional failure, he over controls massively and you can see him using the yolk like a steering wheel and pulling and pushing anything he can reach. This is not an infrequent occurrence, and it's the judgement call thousands of instructors make every day - is my student ready and if something goes wrong, what will they do? In this case the student failed to recognize and react to the problem correctly and was extremely fortunate to survive the outcome.

B2N2 7th Sep 2020 16:27

This ^^^^
Student pilot panicked and his brain shut down.
All you keyboard commandos should be ashamed of yourself.
Half of you wear a poop suit in a Pa28.

michaelbinary 7th Sep 2020 17:11


Originally Posted by Meester proach (Post 10880031)
It’s the modern day vanity ,

Record everything you do because it’s sooo interesting .

But then airline FOs are some of the worst offenders for YouTube vanity .

I think the worst are when there’s a running commentary ... concentrate , dammit

Well, I do think it was a great video of a crash, something to be used for future student training no doubt.

Pugilistic Animus 7th Sep 2020 18:12

Back in the old days of flying...if you crashed, and survived and weren't too badly injured, you were told to go right back to the hangar and get another airplane the same day...this was done so that the student didn't turn yellow.

kansarasc 7th Sep 2020 21:36

I have a hard time believing that this guy is actually a student.. I have been a student before and even with very basic instruction for a short time this should not happen.
Way Faaaaast taxi., seriously on first solo ? Why he had his hands on control yoke? while taxiing ? Student with just few hours of experience will know that you taxi with foot pedals and not yoke.

Squawk7700 7th Sep 2020 22:21


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 10880121)
Yep full right aileron really helps to turn away from the hangar! How do these people get a ticket to drive a plane?

A lot of people have been saying the same thing about this video, however I can’t help but think I would have also turned hard right with the ailerons when approaching the hangar as it feels like it would be better to crash into the underside of the aircraft rather than front on. In fact there’s a fair chance it saved his life.

The undercarriage is under the aircraft, whereas if you hit something straight on in the 172 you tend to smack the dash and hit the yoke with your chest. I witnessed this personally on the “not so merry go-around” at YLTV many years ago that has been well written about.

Capt Fathom 7th Sep 2020 22:31

A least he followed one piece of advice.

Fly the aircraft all the way to the crash site!

captain.weird 7th Sep 2020 23:03

Was it his first solo?

Lead Balloon 7th Sep 2020 23:23

If you spend a lot of time driving a car and little time flying an aircraft, the natural instinctual reaction when panicked is to use the aircraft yoke as a ‘steering wheel’.

(BTW kansarasc: I was taught from day 1 to use the elevator and ailerons during taxi, to take account of wind. Even in zero wind conditions, the elevator should be used during taxi, in a tricycle undercarriage aircraft, to take a bit of weight off the nose wheel.)

Give the kid a break. He walked away.

stilton 8th Sep 2020 00:39

I’m surprised he survived, it looked like a hell of an impact


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