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Dual Training and Checks in GA under Government Decrees during Covid19

Old 29th Mar 2020, 05:39
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Dual Training and Checks in GA under Government Decrees during Covid19

Its hard to see how flight training schools can continue to do dual training and check flights under the Government COVID 19 decrees. The GA training fleet are mainly small aircraft of 2-4 seats side by side with the sometimes 6 seater twins and a small number of tandems seat 2 seaters.
Solo training and solo private or with a rear seat passenger on private flights may still be viable.
All bad news for the flight training industry without assistance from Government and if the can offer $300M to help the Regionals then maybe some lobbying could help the training industry as the monthly aircraft and equipment leases will still be due, rent to be paid and staff to be kept on to maintain an AOC..
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 08:52
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Scotty from marketing hasn't said anything to ban flight training yet. Tonight's new rules allow people to go out for work (instructors) or education (students).

I'd say schools will need to put in fairly robust policies and procedures to manage the covid19 risk if they wish to stay open.
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 09:46
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There has been a lot of sharing between schools of protocols and precautions. Everyone is trying to do their best without retrenching staff or disrupting students training.
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 09:58
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Wondering if my training can continue,
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Can the Covid-19 bug survive an 80 kt gale?
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Can the Covid-19 bug survive an 80 kt gale?
I bags the front seat
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 19:39
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I bags the front seat
My thoughts exactly!
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 22:09
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OK since the front seat is taken, I;ll take the back.
Then we can run thru some training with steep turns, limit turns, stalls and spinning, engine shut downs in flight and restarts, side slipping and forced landings right onto the ground. Plus a few blats around the flats at dot feet to show the effects of wind in the perceptions of turning at low level. It was fun then, and still is...if it still allowed. NOT of course, in the name of "safety"
And for the front seater...No spitting overboard !
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 02:13
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Wondering if my training can continue,
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 03:01
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I'd say schools will need to put in fairly robust policies and procedures to manage the covid19 risk if they wish to stay open.
You mean like one of them who filled sanitiser bottles with water?! Who's going to stop them?
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 03:34
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You mean like one of them who filled sanitiser bottles with water?! Who's going to stop them?
Yeah you're right, the fed and state governments haven't shut down any businesses and won't in the future.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 06:10
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You mean like one of them who filled sanitiser bottles with water?!
What's that quote? Something along the lines of "Integrity is doing what's right, even when nobody's watching"

If that's their chosen action in response to the current circumstances, one wonders about their training records, instructor recency, pay rates and entitlements, accounting....
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 08:44
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Of course you would have to make sure the front seat does not give a technicolour yawn just as you initiate the second loop....like an old instructor of mine used to whenever we did steep turns.
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Wrightsair to cease non-essential operations

Just saw this on the Wrightsair facebook page:


"WRIGHTSAIR PUBLIC NOTICE - COVID-19Unfortunately due to the current situation surrounding COVID-19, following the advice from the Australian Government, Wrightsair will cease all non-essential flying until further notice."


I know they aren't a flying school, but what advice could this one GA operator have received from the government that has lead to them to suspending their operation but many other operators (including GA flying schools) continue to operate

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Old 30th Mar 2020, 09:01
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Errrmm... Perhaps Wrightsair’s ’bread and butter’ is sight-seeing flights with more than 2 punters squashed into a 206/Airvan sized aircraft. Hardly 1.5 metre social distancing. And the punters on the Oodnadatta track come from all sort of exotic places.

And note that the page you quoted does not say what your bolded post title says. (Wag finger emoji)
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 09:16
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon View Post
And note that the page you quoted does not say what your bolded post title says. (Wag finger emoji)
my bad - all fixed
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I do tire of adults who think saying “my bad” is exculpatory. Your name isn’t “Stuart Robert” by any chance?

Trev’s mob does a lot of good work that doesn’t involve the carriage of punters.
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I do tire of adults who think saying ďmy badĒ is exculpatory. Your name isnít ďStuart RobertĒ by any chance?

Trevís mob does a lot of good work that doesnít involve the carriage of punters.
Fair point on the gutter lingo.

I do realise that he does do a fair amount of non tourist charter work. Not sure how they would deaw the line between essential and non essential given the variety in their work.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 10:36
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Dual training at the moment is very unwise. If you have an ill student, the instructor is very likely to catch it and spread it to subsequent students.

Apart from the risk to students and instructors (do you lose your medical if you have lung damage?) and the issue of safe workplaces, this sort of spread could easily add 2-3 weeks to the lock down of the rest of the economy.

From my understanding of the government announcements today, you can probably stop flying altogether and the government will pay you to pay your instructors $1500/fortnight to sit at home and study for their next rating.
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