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Old 26th May 2020, 04:09
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They still have 4 more courses locked in from July. I know a youngster going for an interview next month. Would be very interested to hear from anyone who is on course at the moment.
Not on the course personally but a mate of mine is a Grade 2 instructor with FTA QLD (the company that actually does the training). The graduates are simply added to the QF talent pool once they complete the course with a CPL, CIR and ATPL passes. FTA gets their $120k+, Qantas gets the media of ‘training the future generation’ and all are happy. Apparently a lot of the QG01 students are saying they want direct entry after they finish but are “basically dreaming”.

That’s not to say it won’t be a leg up once they do go and get a GA job to build hours for a few years (especially now considering COVID), but it’s hardly a cadetship by any stretch of the imagination. Best tactic would be to treat it as a year-long job interview, do the very best you can, go and get those multi hours up and then try and get in through the talent pool.

FTA still trains other airline cadets from the academy too, currently a batch of IndiGo ones are going through. Overall it really is just a glorified FTA CPL VET-FEE course with an airline badge stamped on top. Will be interested to see in a few years time if the talent pool actually eventuates to anything.
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Old 26th May 2020, 05:50
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I would be interested to know where the academy is suggesting all of these new pilots get jobs in the next few years. I suppose that isn't really their concern if they're only a training facility and Qantas hasn't said any of the graduates are guaranteed jobs. By the looks of it they will have around 100 students in the academy by the end of the year.
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Old 29th May 2020, 23:24
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Originally Posted by Pickle123
I would be interested to know where the academy is suggesting all of these new pilots get jobs in the next few years. I suppose that isn't really their concern if they're only a training facility and Qantas hasn't said any of the graduates are guaranteed jobs. By the looks of it they will have around 100 students suckers in the academy by the end of the year.
I saw an error in your post which I have corrected for you.
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Old 29th May 2020, 23:48
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Originally Posted by Pickle123
I would be interested to know where the academy is suggesting all of these new pilots get jobs in the next few years. I suppose that isn't really their concern if they're only a training facility and Qantas hasn't said any of the graduates are guaranteed jobs. By the looks of it they will have around 100 students in the academy by the end of the year.
You mean the part of the contract which states there is no guarantee of a job or employment?

Was nothing more than a way to make $$$, and yet suckers still fell for it.

Now they will be over $100k in debt to mummy and daddy with no chance of a job in aviation anywhere in the next 2 years.
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Old 30th May 2020, 00:06
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Now they will be over $100k in debt to mummy and daddy with no chance of a job in aviation anywhere in the next 2 years.
VETFEE is a debt to the government, at a pretty good interest rate for an unsecured loan. Made up by over the top charges for the course though.

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at a pretty good interest rate for an unsecured loan.
Are you forgetting the 20% flat fee the government levies on the course cost?

So, that would make the comparison rate a bit of a joke.
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at a pretty good interest rate for an unsecured loan.
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Made up by over the top charges for the course though

Bodie:
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Are you forgetting the 20% flat fee the government levies on the course cost?

sO, tHaT WoUlD MaKe tHe cOmPaRiSoN RaTe a bIt oF A JoKe.


Hope you can read your regs better then you can read pprune posts.

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Old 31st May 2020, 23:31
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250 flying hours, CPL, MEIR, ATPL and MCC in one year for $150 000.
How much time and money would it cost to do everything the QANTAS academy is offering at another flight school?
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 16:58
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250 flying hours, CPL, MEIR, ATPL and MCC in one year for $150 000.
How much time and money would it cost to do everything the QANTAS academy is offering at another flight school?
About 50k less
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Hope you can read your regs better then you can read PPRuNe posts.
I do alright with the regs thanks.

You obviously have no clue what a comparison rate is. Like a lot of pilots, financial management is not a strong point. Hope you're not doling out financial advice with your flight lessons.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 02:05
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About 50k less
Would the time you need be the same?

Although it may be 50k more, you don't have to pay upfront and it is done in a year. Putting you back into the workforce and hour building sooner?
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 09:28
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Originally Posted by Bodie1

I do alright with the regs thanks.

You obviously have no clue what a comparison rate is. Like a lot of pilots, financial management is not a strong point. Hope you're not doling out financial advice with your flight lessons.


Maybe if I'm mentioning rates and course fees I'm effectively referring to a comparison rate?
Nah, you best take those regs back to whichever flight schools garbage bin you lifted them from.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 11:01
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Maybe if I'm mentioning rates and course fees I'm effectively referring to a comparison rate?

Nah, you best take those regs back to whichever flight schools garbage bin you lifted them from.
Well, no you weren't, you said it was a pretty good rate. You just don't like your lack of knowledge being pointed out. If you say one thing but mean another then you have a problem.

I don't trawl garbage bins for regs, the amendments are all kept up to date. I don't teach subjects with out of date regs, that would be wrong.

Let's keep up the little tit for tat, I quite enjoy so called experts making dickheads of themselves.
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Old 2nd Jun 2020, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Bodie1

Well, no you weren't, you said it was a pretty good rate. You just don't like your lack of knowledge being pointed out. If you say one thing but mean another then you have a problem.

I don't trawl garbage bins for regs, the amendments are all kept up to date. I don't teach subjects with out of date regs, that would be wrong.

Let's keep up the little tit for tat, I quite enjoy so called experts making dickheads of themselves.


Flight schools must love your monthly dumpster dive amendments... and watch the language, can just picture your bloated red face typing that...
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Old 3rd Jun 2020, 04:54
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As Styx and Bodie can't seem to understand the rules about personal attacks not being tolerated this thread has to stop here. Perhaps someone would like to start a new, up to date thread on the subject.
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