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Old 30th Nov 2019, 00:53
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Enough of your doomsday prepping dribble!
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 00:55
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Originally Posted by spektrum View Post
Duckpilot, congratulations you sharp specimen you. He admits it is fake. Did you even read the the post before replying?
Thanks for your nice response, Iím deeply humbled by your commitments and a I will take them onboard according. I always welcome constructive criticism from people who are more knowledgeable, experienced and smarter than me.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 02:18
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I wouldn't encourage fake posts like this. It is sure to give this forum section a bad name when you can't even trust management parsing of fakes.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 02:50
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I am concerned that someone with that kind of deluded thinking might have access to fly a plane.

Does anyone know his DAME so I can have a quiet chat and suggest a mental health review?
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 04:37
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OP is a bit rich coming from a country whose government doesn't even want to talk about climate change. But to salvage something from the thread: in order to preserve the possibility for aviation, both private and commercial, which is very hard to make carbon neutral, it is vitally necessary to act against the major causes of climate change, starting with coal. Instead of trolling forums, it would be useful to apply pressure to any governments one might be able to influence (India, China, USA, and Australia, for starters).
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 05:05
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Some of you can't tell fact from fiction, which is sad. However I'm pleased that I can still write a reasonable imitation of a press release.

But seriously folks, get your head around the current directions climate change debate is going under the "leadership" of Greta Thunberg and "extinction rebellion" (heard of them?). Airline travel is already in their sights.

Given that Australian pilots and their organisations, are not noted for their political skills (with some exceptions) and that Government at all levels is about to start looking for low hanging fruit to satisfy the climate change alarmists, don't you think you are easy targets? I do, especially when I consider that some of you sit on luverly flat property development land worth billions? Then there are the politics of envy or the tall poppy syndrome - Australians as a rule don't like rich aircraft owners. You are an easy mark, the public couldn't give a damn about you..

In my opinion, the ONLY way you are going to save your industry or hobby is to drive your organisations into being politically savvy and active right now. Forget about negotiating with CASA, forget about all this professionalism - Marquis of Queensberry honorable behaviour BS, you need to build a political reputation as bad as the CFMEU, or the African honey badger, an animal so fierce its been known to tear the testicles off lions. At the same time you need community outreach to build a positive image of GA in the minds of the general public - Peninsula Aero Club and Angel flight are pretty good at that. To put that another way, we need to join something like AOPA and turn it into the pit bull terrier that guards aviation from Government encroachment, we also need to generate a warm fuzzy image of Australian GA with the public.

And its doable. Do you know what Senator Pauline Hanson did to the Government the other day? Do you know what Senator Jacqui Lambie may do to the Government this coming week? Do you know that there may be a bye election in the seat of Chisholm? All it takes is one or two politicians holding the balance of power and warmly disposed to GA and we start getting what we want. You need to get a reputation with politicians - like AOPA USA has, that you are one big headache when annoyed and that it is wiser for politicians to give you what you want. Political clout - that is what you need to develop, I've talked ad nauseam how to build it. Without it my press release, or something close to it, may one day be fact, not fiction and sooner than you think.
Quoted for truth. Nice post Sunny.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 06:09
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Took you a while. The mere fact that he started a thread made me realise it would be BS.
Now that was funny! Thankyou.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 06:42
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It’s a pity some of you don’t do parody or have any imagination.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 06:58
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Let’s say the year is 2020. The Liberal Government loses a vote of confidence on the floor of the reps. Labor forms a government in coalition with the green party.

NSW Green party policy item no 28:

28. “Introduce regulatory and taxation reforms that reflect the long term environmental, social and health impacts of air travel”.
Still think i’m a loony?
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 07:17
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post

Still think iím a loony?
Yes, 100% loony.

Please find somewhere else to post your nutter conspiracy theories.

You tried to pass an absolute falsity as a fact. You are a crazed liar.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 07:22
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All it takes is one or two politicians holding the balance of power and warmly disposed to GA and we start getting what we want. You need to get a reputation with politicians - like AOPA USA has, that you are one big headache when annoyed and that it is wiser for politicians to give you what you want. Political clout - that is what you need to develop, I've talked ad nauseam how to build it. Without it my press release, or something close to it, may one day be fact, not fiction and sooner than you think.
This is the meat of Sunny's post.... this is what we need to do and big time. Sad part is that the Associations that we have don't seem to want to always work together - that is a big problem if we are to survive long term. Put a polly or two on a slippery surface and they will be on side before you know it. After this weeks exercise in Parliament I see independents and small parties starting to take hold, especially when the major's are not listening to just about anyone!
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 07:26
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Sunfish,
In which of The Greens NSW policies does it say at item 28: "Introduce regulatory and taxation reforms that reflect the long term environmental, social and health impacts of air travel"?
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 07:30
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The original post went way beyond simply being misleading. it was an outright lie.

Sunfish has been peddling his nutty fact-free conspiracy theories here for years. I'm calling him out as a compulsive liar who lacks a grasp of reality.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 08:02
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Sunfish, I get the parody, think you're on the money.

In my view the world is morphing (in plain sight) towards something rather unpleasant, whilst all the UI's (useful idiots) gaze adoringly at their iThingies and enjoy Farcetubing each other. Outside of the GA sector itself, ask yourself who is left that gives a toss about light aircraft and flying? The Gen Z cohort have been fooled into expecting pilotless air taxis soon, why would they care about GA? Generally, millennials are not interested, they just want max bandwidth and a slave on a bicycle to deliver pre-prepared meals. The Gen X and boomers that still engage with GA are reaching retirement age, and/or being medically shut down. Support internally and externally for a GA sector is diminishing.

Coupled with the above, the Greta's of the world will look to find fossil fuelled targets that are readily attacked and then shamed into oblivion. Campaigns like this are perfect for window dressing in Class A virtue signalling and will be broadcast widely, the politicians will love it as it's action that is visible, laudable and actually impacts very few. Flying for fun is already a rich persons hobby.

GA fits the bill for this type of green-Marxist agenda perfectly. People who fly for anything other than a utilitarian purpose, e.g. for fun, challenge or pleasure will be shunned. Eventually motor sport will go this way too, but a bigger support base amongst the UI's will see it last a bit longer. Already they are working hard to head this off with electrickery and carbon foot print offsets. The writing is on the wall unless somebody comes up with a cunning plan.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 08:22
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Just wonder how they haven't found out yet, that most of us still use leaded petrol.
Having said that, social-envy-visual-noise protesters seem to be more threatening to me than followers of the Greta cult. I hope thy ban package holidays first. Some soma and VR goggles should do it.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 09:30
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 09:45
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Great opening post and the reactions that followed are ironically not too dissimilar to that on the world stage.

Why isn't Greta and her friends doing something about greenhouse gas emissions caused from that worldwide American export called "Black Friday"?

Oh well, with interest rates approaching negative numbers, wage growth stagnant, immigration and welfare going ballistic, China buying our backyard and housing costing millions, we all shoulda been real-estate agents.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 10:06
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Greens NSW Transport policy. Item 28.

https://greens.org.au/nsw/policies/transport

If you are a train spotter, the greens are for you.

Maybe electric aircraft will placate them.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 10:10
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Originally Posted by BDAttitude View Post
Just wonder how they haven't found out yet, that most of us still use leaded petrol.
Having said that, social-envy-visual-noise protesters seem to be more threatening to me than followers of the Greta cult. I hope thy ban package holidays first. Some soma and VR goggles should do it.
It is funny green fuel is blue in most parts, not sure why Australia is not using the blue that has less lead.
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Old 30th Nov 2019, 10:21
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After being caught out with a blatant lie, saying ".. it's only ... a parody" does not cut it.

Sunfish is a conspiracy-theory nutter and a liar.
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