Bushcat Prize
Here's the steal of the century.
Bushcat is now offering you the chance to buy the price, for the discounted price of only $60,000. HHHmmm, so PPrune doesn't appear to allow FB links no matter how you encode them with the URL tags, so, go to Facebook.com/bushcataustralia/posts/851479388626955 for more details...
I hold no ill will towards Bushcat, the farce is not their fault, but it is a slap in the face to everyone who took RAAus at their word....
Bushcat is now offering you the chance to buy the price, for the discounted price of only $60,000. HHHmmm, so PPrune doesn't appear to allow FB links no matter how you encode them with the URL tags, so, go to Facebook.com/bushcataustralia/posts/851479388626955 for more details...
I hold no ill will towards Bushcat, the farce is not their fault, but it is a slap in the face to everyone who took RAAus at their word....
Last edited by KRviator; 27th Feb 2020 at 07:08. Reason: EDIT 1-6 Trying to make FB coding work. EDIT 7: Gave up, used free text.
Here's the steal of the century.
Bushcat is now offering you the chance to buy the price, for the discounted price of only $60,000. HHHmmm, so PPrune doesn't appear to allow FB links no matter how you encode them with the URL tags, so, go to Facebook.com/bushcataustralia/posts/851479388626955 for more details...
I hold no ill will towards Bushcat, the farce is not their fault, but it is a slap in the face to everyone who took RAAus at their word....
Bushcat is now offering you the chance to buy the price, for the discounted price of only $60,000. HHHmmm, so PPrune doesn't appear to allow FB links no matter how you encode them with the URL tags, so, go to Facebook.com/bushcataustralia/posts/851479388626955 for more details...
I hold no ill will towards Bushcat, the farce is not their fault, but it is a slap in the face to everyone who took RAAus at their word....
If you're so much better informed, then why not correct the record, rather than a blunt "Nope, you're wrong!"
AIUI, RAAus is the sole financial beneficiary of the trust fund. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that is, you can't expect to be the sole beneficiary of any surplus funds from a well-performing event, yet wash your hands of it when there is a shortfall.
Yet, you have a contradiction from the very people who organised the raffle:
It isn't just forums that have been commenting on this debacle, it made it into a national newspaper - and it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff when you have contradicting information from the event organisers and RAAus, with RAAus appearing to be making a deliberate attempt at distancing themselves from goings-on, and subsequently being called out for misleading readers...
AIUI, RAAus is the sole financial beneficiary of the trust fund. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that is, you can't expect to be the sole beneficiary of any surplus funds from a well-performing event, yet wash your hands of it when there is a shortfall.
Originally Posted by Airventure Australia
To understand what has since unfolded, it is important to explain the role of AirVenture Australia Pty Ltd. AirVenture Australia Pty Ltd is a company trustee of a trust named “The OzKosh trust” of which the sole beneficiary is Recreational Aviation Australia Inc (RAAus). Our small team are mostly volunteers. We give up our time to plan and stage the ‘AirVenture Australia’ event annually, using trust funds. source
Originally Posted by RAAus
Despite these contributions and other forms of support, RAAus did not have any management input into the event and was not privy to the details regarding the BushCat promotional giveaway, insurance arrangements for the event or any risk mitigation plans put in place. source
The statement that RAAus was not privy to the details of the BushCat prize is, with respect, misleading as:
- RAAus CEO Mr Linke and Chairman Mr Michael Monck, attended the initial planning meeting for the BushCat with Global, BushCat, Rotax and Australian Aviation at Avalon Airshow in February this year
- The aircraft was registered with RAAus in March of this year
- RAAus supplied one staff member to oversee and sign off on the build so that the aircraft could be registered and certified to fly at the event
- RAAus held numerous conversations with AirVenture Australia in regard to conduct of the give-away
- Both Mr Linke and Mr Monck were in regular contact with the Director of AirVenture Australia, Mr David Young, between March and September 2019 in regard to the BushCat project. source
Originally Posted by Squawk7700
despite what you’ve been reading on forums with unqualified statements of incorrect facts from people that wouldn’t know better!
If you're so much better informed, then why not correct the record, rather than a blunt "Nope, you're wrong!"
AIUI, RAAus is the sole financial beneficiary of the trust fund. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that is, you can't expect to be the sole beneficiary of any surplus funds from a well-performing event, yet wash your hands of it when there is a shortfall.
Yet, you have a contradiction from the very people who organised the raffle:
It isn't just forums that have been commenting on this debacle, it made it into a national newspaper - and it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff when you have contradicting information from the event organisers and RAAus, with RAAus appearing to be making a deliberate attempt at distancing themselves from goings-on, and subsequently being called out for misleading readers...
AIUI, RAAus is the sole financial beneficiary of the trust fund. You can't have your cake and eat it too, that is, you can't expect to be the sole beneficiary of any surplus funds from a well-performing event, yet wash your hands of it when there is a shortfall.
Yet, you have a contradiction from the very people who organised the raffle:
It isn't just forums that have been commenting on this debacle, it made it into a national newspaper - and it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff when you have contradicting information from the event organisers and RAAus, with RAAus appearing to be making a deliberate attempt at distancing themselves from goings-on, and subsequently being called out for misleading readers...
If my parents take out a $1m loan and default on it because they died, does that mean I have to pay back the $1m because I am the beneficiary of their estate?
If my parents take out a $1m loan and default on it because they died, does that mean I have to pay back the $1m because I am the beneficiary of their estate?
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Bushcast aircraft promotional giveaway
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It is clear that none of you have read the terms and conditions for this promotion. Yes it is a promotion, NOT a raffle. To gain entry into the promotion you had to purchase an entry ticket for the air show online. Therefore, the promotion itself was free to enter. To clarify if I purchase a washing machine and the promotoer advises that I get an entry into a promotional giveaway for a holiday for two - that is a promotion. It cost me nothing as I was purchasing the washing machine anyway. Same as this air show.
So there is no issuing of refunds for entry tickets into the show. Also it seems that they hadnt purchased the plane and it was returned to the sponsor.
No harm no foul - none of you missed out - it was not a raffle and therefore was just a free promotion encouraging people to purchase their tickets online prior to attending the event.
It is clear that none of you have read the terms and conditions for this promotion. Yes it is a promotion, NOT a raffle. To gain entry into the promotion you had to purchase an entry ticket for the air show online. Therefore, the promotion itself was free to enter. To clarify if I purchase a washing machine and the promotoer advises that I get an entry into a promotional giveaway for a holiday for two - that is a promotion. It cost me nothing as I was purchasing the washing machine anyway. Same as this air show.
So there is no issuing of refunds for entry tickets into the show. Also it seems that they hadnt purchased the plane and it was returned to the sponsor.
No harm no foul - none of you missed out - it was not a raffle and therefore was just a free promotion encouraging people to purchase their tickets online prior to attending the event.
Not a lawyer are you, Jane? 
And what of the folk who purchased a ticket only for the purpose of obtaining a chance to win the aircraft. What 'washing machine' did they get, Jane?
"No harm no foul"? Sounds very American...
"No harm no foul"? Sounds very American...
So its OK to buy a ticket which gives you entry to AusFly, and as stated/written, also a chance to win the "Promotion" (sic) , a BushCat. But actually there is no prize.!
Mmm.....when the pubs open again I must get in there and sell the patrons tickets to a 'promotion'... but in reality there is no prize. Could be a nice little earner. Wonder how many times I;ll be allowed to do that.!
Be interested to see what the true legal position is.
I dont recall seeing on the site any disclaimer about minimum no. of tickets sold or show cancellation that the "prize" would disappear.
Mmm.....when the pubs open again I must get in there and sell the patrons tickets to a 'promotion'... but in reality there is no prize. Could be a nice little earner. Wonder how many times I;ll be allowed to do that.!
Be interested to see what the true legal position is.
I dont recall seeing on the site any disclaimer about minimum no. of tickets sold or show cancellation that the "prize" would disappear.
I am not sympathetic to the suggestion that everyone should have understood, from the 'fine print', that this could have been the outcome. I'd suggest that some people may have made a different decision if there had been a big bold statement that said: NOTE: IF WE DON'T RAISE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER THE COST OF THE PRIZE, NO ONE WILL WIN IT AND YOUR ENTRY TICKET WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
The people who purchased entry tickets for the purpose only of getting a chance to win the prize did not know they were, in effect, just making a donation.
Last edited by Lead Balloon; 15th Apr 2020 at 23:52.
Seems it isn't only AirVenture that can pull a stunt like this - from the ABC: Horses for Harmony charity sold raffle tickets for Corvette but never drew a winner
I wonder if they'll go after them with the same fervour they did the RAAus people after AirVenture?!?
I wonder if they'll go after them with the same fervour they did the RAAus people after AirVenture?!?
