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Old 21st Oct 2019, 02:20
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Flying School Owner makes AFR rich list

I see on the front page of the AFR that the owner of Soar Aviation has made the AFR Young Rich List. Given those things are vetted for family money that is an incredible achievement. Most operators spend a lifetime going broke so to be that successful in aviation by 30 and not be bankrupt or shut down by the regulator is unbelievable.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 02:26
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He has always been very very effective at marketing, and at the end of the day it is the dollars in the account that really matters in business.

Whether the business has been effective at training pilots is another question. Based on experience we will not hire anyone who has worked there or trained there.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 03:23
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They appear to be using a Cobham aircraft in advertising on their website. Anyone know of a connection?

https://soar.edu.au/our-history/
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 05:58
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He started with a few million from the family in India, then over the years has stolen the rest from the public selling groupons with no intention to honour them and marketing joy flights as RAAUS Tif's which is very illegal. So many "students" can't speak english, not a word! Obviously Chinese tourists with no intention of embarking on flight training. He has a long history of short paying his employees as well. Neel your bad karma is coming for you.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 06:56
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The website uses an expression which makes me grate my teeth:

"Trial Introductory Flight."

No, it's a Trial Instructional Flight, or a Training Introductory Flight.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 07:16
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Originally Posted by Chronic Snoozer View Post
They appear to be using a Cobham aircraft in advertising on their website. Anyone know of a connection?

https://soar.edu.au/our-history/
Reckon the folks over at Cobham and AMSA would be very interested in the use of that image......

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Old 21st Oct 2019, 07:25
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I counted 27 aircraft at their Moorabbin base yesterday afternoon. That would have to be more than Oxford surely Iím guessing or if not, close to it.


Presumably youíre referring to the fact that generally around 30% of Gift Vouchers in flying schools are never redeemed? Thatís very different to not honouring them at all...

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He started with a few million from the family in India, then over the years has stolen the rest from the public selling groupons with no intention to honour them
There are articles about how he sold TIFís on Groupon and sold so many that it funded the purchase of their first aircraft, a Jabiru.

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Old 21st Oct 2019, 09:14
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Reckon the folks over at Cobham and AMSA would be very interested in the use of that image
So are the private jet owners whose aircraft appear on aircraft brokers websites making out that your aircraft is at their beckon call........you can't do anything about it. It's just a photo of a CL-604
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 09:21
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I think you’re correct, nev. It’s just a silhouette of an aircraft in the air. (BTW: It’s “beck and call” not “beckon call”...).

Clever marketing on SOAR’s behalf, though.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 09:43
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Itís easy to make a profit when you lie with your marketing.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 09:51
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Irrespective of all the criticism people are levelling against this guy, much respect for his entrepreneurial success.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 10:22
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Pity their instructors can't teach the students how to fly a circuit that stays within reasonable distances from the runway or maybe it's the instructors who have no clue.

What an organisation - not



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Old 21st Oct 2019, 10:48
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Pity their instructors can't teach the students how to fly a circuit that stays within reasonable distances from the runway
That over-sized circuit including over the coast line to the west and Parkmore to the east has been taught at ALL Moorabbin schools for at least the 20 years that Iíve been flying in there for !

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Old 21st Oct 2019, 11:40
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Zanthrus, your colours are showing again. Funny thing about Groupon, the business doesn't get any of the money till the coupon is actually redeemed. So would you like to recant that particular statement? I can't speak to the rest but know that one as I've been talking to some people about Groupon for my own business recently (A Path I won't be going down personally).
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 12:37
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Soar Aviation offers globally recognised qualifications and licences
Can I use my Australian CPL in the USA, UK or France?

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Old 21st Oct 2019, 12:41
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You can if you're flying an Australian reg. aircraft.

The USA will issue you a US CPL if you show them you're Australian CPL and want to fly a US reg. aircraft (but the licence will be restricted from commercial operations until you pass a check).
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 12:58
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You can also downgrade an Aussie CPL/ATPL to a foreign PPL if you're happy to fly privately only. In fact, this is a surprisingly straightforward process with the FAA. The only cost involved was obviously $50 to CASA to have them send a letter with your FCL qualifications to the FAA. The latter will provide you with a verification letter that you'll have to take with your Aussie FCL to the nominated airfield where your FAA licence will be given to you.

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Old 21st Oct 2019, 22:35
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OF course, this is all sour grapes and tall poppy syndrome.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 01:42
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Originally Posted by Horatio Leafblower View Post
OF course, this is all sour grapes and tall poppy syndrome.
I donít know anyone here or anything about the business, however you beat me to it!!!

Straya loves the tall poppy syndrome.


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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 07:04
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uhmmmm, sour grapes or not (and I'm saying nothing about this one) you may want to watch this space, it'll be an interesting read ;-)
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