Stig goes drone fishing
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The tether looks at least 10m long. Doubt a helmet will prevent zero injuries when a 30kg mass hits you at 10m/s.
I couldn't find any info on the duration of the flight, was it up there in the same league as being fired from a cannon?
BTW, it's been done before many times by many others in many different ways and all had the same common problem - the battery duration in flight mode is just not practical.
I couldn't find any info on the duration of the flight, was it up there in the same league as being fired from a cannon?
BTW, it's been done before many times by many others in many different ways and all had the same common problem - the battery duration in flight mode is just not practical.
There is apparently an experimental Zenith 650 with electric power normal performance and 1.5 hour endurance with 30min reserve. I’m not sure about the fine performance detail.
My observation is that from time to time we hear of new battery technologies that allegedly at least double performance and efficiency at the same weight. Similarly with electric motors but less about efficiency and more about weight.If any of these come to fruition, and assuming charging issues are resolved, we are going to have practical short range electric flight.
Next comes the question of certification of such systems by the FAA and in CASAs case, finding suppliers of “approved” electricity.
My observation is that from time to time we hear of new battery technologies that allegedly at least double performance and efficiency at the same weight. Similarly with electric motors but less about efficiency and more about weight.If any of these come to fruition, and assuming charging issues are resolved, we are going to have practical short range electric flight.
Next comes the question of certification of such systems by the FAA and in CASAs case, finding suppliers of “approved” electricity.
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Now we know it is real, I must say it is a pretty impressive device to (according to today's SMH), lift 110 kg with 15 minutes endurance.
What the guys need to do, to make it all "legal", is get it certified and registered in the Experimental Amateur Built Cat., talk to RA Oz, chaps.
Tootle pip!!
not stupid like these fools!:-)
Whilst the danger level is no doubt somewhat above that of indoor butterfly identification it is probably on par or less than that of some other pretty conventional pursuits such as scuba diving, snow skiing, wake boarding, dirt bike racing, etc..
I know the city folk live for it, but playing with ones telephone just doesn't cut it for many of us country folk.
Love it...have been designing something similar, but to sit in, not to hang from.
Obi.. CAsA and the Gibbo can probably list the "risk assessment" hazards and regs pertaining to the requirements for indoor butterfly id. after all it is an aircraft / a bio-flying machine.
Hard hat, safety goggles, face mask ...and of course the approvals to do so. After you've written your 'exposition' /manual.and outlaidmany 1000s of dollars.
Obi.. CAsA and the Gibbo can probably list the "risk assessment" hazards and regs pertaining to the requirements for indoor butterfly id. after all it is an aircraft / a bio-flying machine.
Hard hat, safety goggles, face mask ...and of course the approvals to do so. After you've written your 'exposition' /manual.and outlaidmany 1000s of dollars.
Honestly nothing that innovative about what they've done, haven't pushed any boundaries that haven't already been pushed.
For all those saying CASA/ATSB shouldn't waste their time they absolutely should, because for every idiot like this that does it in the middle of no where and doesn't risk other there will be a bunch of others emboldened to try it themselves infront of their mates where they could indeed hurt someone else.
I'm not saying this sort of thing shouldn't be done, but it should be done the right way.
For all those saying CASA/ATSB shouldn't waste their time they absolutely should, because for every idiot like this that does it in the middle of no where and doesn't risk other there will be a bunch of others emboldened to try it themselves infront of their mates where they could indeed hurt someone else.
I'm not saying this sort of thing shouldn't be done, but it should be done the right way.
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Honestly nothing that innovative about what they've done, haven't pushed any boundaries that haven't already been pushed.
For all those saying CASA/ATSB shouldn't waste their time they absolutely should, because for every idiot like this that does it in the middle of no where and doesn't risk other there will be a bunch of others emboldened to try it themselves infront of their mates where they could indeed hurt someone else.
I'm not saying this sort of thing shouldn't be done, but it should be done the right way.
For all those saying CASA/ATSB shouldn't waste their time they absolutely should, because for every idiot like this that does it in the middle of no where and doesn't risk other there will be a bunch of others emboldened to try it themselves infront of their mates where they could indeed hurt someone else.
I'm not saying this sort of thing shouldn't be done, but it should be done the right way.
Personally I hope CASA throw the book at them as they give the drone industry a bad name/tag!!
I dare say that the fact this took them 2 years of trials and testing to get to the stage they did likely indicates they started from scratch with little functioning knowledge of the problems and solutions to those problems that would have to be overcome.
To undertake any complex project that you are unfamiliar takes a degree of personal inventiveness and as Peter Gibson stated in the media... well that's a first for Australia.
Those that belittle or mock these guys probably have never scratch built anything of significance.
Don't get me wrong here I believe CASA are quite right to have a word with these guys and point out a few things, that is there job after all, I hope they leave it that though. If we were to impose the view that only those with the way with all and time to undertake a similar bold project in full compliance with the myriad of red tape and regulations then we would kill the spirit of inventiveness and likely in time end up a country of people that can't build much at all of any significance. If you doubt this then have a look around we've arrived there.
From Machtuk: "Personally I hope CASA throw the book at them as they give the drone industry a bad name/tag!! ----- won't you be disappointed if they haven't done much "illegal" , and there is no "book" to be thrown.
Some of you blokes should get a life ---- nothing they were doing was endangering anybody but themselves ---- and CASA policy is quite clear, stemming from a S.10 directive in 1997, in the case of sports aviation, amateur built etc, where all participation is voluntary, CASA's interest is " the safety of other airspace users and those under the flightpath of the aircraft.'
Tootle pip!!
Gupta is onto it.
People need to be reminded Mr P Gibson is a very long ter CAsA trough dweller now labelled The Corporate Spokesman.
One would think that in an Agency such as CAsA the ceo and Board would expect truth of fact and integrity and accuracy of output.
Alas Mr Gibson has proved time and again the CAsA mantra ..Any old Bullsh*t and fairy stories will do..
With politicians, bureaurats, PR and advertising ,we now most surely live in the Age of Spin and Bullsh*t.
People need to be reminded Mr P Gibson is a very long ter CAsA trough dweller now labelled The Corporate Spokesman.
One would think that in an Agency such as CAsA the ceo and Board would expect truth of fact and integrity and accuracy of output.
Alas Mr Gibson has proved time and again the CAsA mantra ..Any old Bullsh*t and fairy stories will do..
With politicians, bureaurats, PR and advertising ,we now most surely live in the Age of Spin and Bullsh*t.
If that is true, it will just drive “droning” underground for want of a better term. Easily affordable aviation solutions like this guys device are unpoliceable. Hence the need by CASA to nip this form of experimentation in the bud.
It it is possible that the advent of such people movers may destroy the current regulatory system. My first hanglider was built from plans in Dads garage long before anyone thought to regulate them. More tinkerers will have a go.
It it is possible that the advent of such people movers may destroy the current regulatory system. My first hanglider was built from plans in Dads garage long before anyone thought to regulate them. More tinkerers will have a go.