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Plane down on the Capital golf course near Moorabbin

Old 16th Jun 2019, 22:35
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Plane down on the Capital golf course near Moorabbin

Saw this in the news yesterday.
I think I saw RAA rego starting with 24.
Luckily, no one hurt.

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Old 17th Jun 2019, 01:38
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Sorry..... there you go... "a hole in one"
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 02:13
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Seems to have arrived on the 17th fairway (based on the bunker configuration)
This is up against Old Dandenong Road and quite a way from the departure?? end of the runway.




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Old 17th Jun 2019, 03:25
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I assumed EFATO. Youíd probably only have to get to a couple of hundred feet after takeoff to get to that point.

Lucky they got it down where they did and probably lucky they didnít try and turn back.
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 03:50
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.........or simulated EFATO and oops!
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.........or simulated EFATO and oops!
itís a Jabiru....
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 04:50
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Anyone know what time of the day and what the wind direction was..? It looks like maybe he was coming in from the Nth to land on 17 (rather than taking off on 35) and he's put it down on the fairway, skipped over the bunker and into the scrub. Once again, the golf course saves the day! If you're ever unlucky enough to have an EFATO or engine quit on short final at Moorabbin, you want it to happen at that end, not the other..!
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Originally Posted by IFEZ View Post
Anyone know what time of the day and what the wind direction was..? It looks like maybe he was coming in from the Nth to land on 17 (rather than taking off on 35) and he's put it down on the fairway, skipped over the bunker and into the scrub. Once again, the golf course saves the day! If you're ever unlucky enough to have an EFATO or engine quit on short final at Moorabbin, you want it to happen at that end, not the other..!
The aircraft was taking off, not landing. Runway 35 was in use. Not sure if it was doing circuits, or just planning to take off and depart. We landed at 3.15 pm and I understand it happened right about then.

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itís a Jabiru....
Fortunate...itís a great airframe to crash in!
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 13:42
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If you land on a golf course after an EFATO, I just say: Mulligan!
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"Being assessed by paramedics", I can just see that "I'm a Paramedic, not a Pilot, but I'd give that landing a 4/10"

Glad everyone walked away alright!
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Reportedly a partial power loss and vibration at 300ft after takeoff.
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Old 18th Jun 2019, 01:57
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I hope they asked to play through, as they don't take too kindly to that at Capital...
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Reportedly a partial power loss and vibration at 300ft after takeoff.
dropped valve? valve heads have been known to break off in these engines

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Originally Posted by Squawk7700 View Post
Reportedly a partial power loss and vibration at 300ft after takeoff.
There have been a few planes over the years that have landed in the same golf course due to carburetor icing. The weather at the time and engine symptoms are consistent with this.
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There have been a few planes over the years that have landed in the same golf course due to carburetor icing. The weather at the time and engine symptoms are consistent with this.

On landing yes, but they were on takeoff. How likely is Carb ice with full power with the throttle butterfly full open?
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dropped valve? valve heads have been known to break off in these engines
Possibly popped off a pot too. You can usually keep going with a popped pot to get home but maintaining a climb would be impossible in a J160. A J170 may have had a chance if fuel / weight was low.
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On landing yes, but they were on takeoff. How likely is Carb ice with full power with the throttle butterfly full open?
It's happened before at this time of year. Maybe it did lose a cylinder, but carby ice is my bet.

Recall LAMEs talking about heading over to the golf course with a fine pitch prop to recover a SE Piper where the same thing probably happened.

Problem with Carburetor Icing is it's hard to prove once the plane is on the ground and ice has melted.
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Carb icing could have happened during the relatively low power taxi but the power checks prior to departure should have found that.
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Originally Posted by golfbananajam View Post
Carb icing could have happened during the relatively low power taxi but the power checks prior to departure should have found that.
Not likely. Would need to be moving fast / flying with air ramming into the inlet.
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