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0ttoL 16th Jun 2019 22:35

Plane down on the Capital golf course near Moorabbin
 
Saw this in the news yesterday.
I think I saw RAA rego starting with 24.
Luckily, no one hurt.

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mcoates 17th Jun 2019 01:38

Sorry..... there you go... "a hole in one"

0ttoL 17th Jun 2019 02:13

Seems to have arrived on the 17th fairway (based on the bunker configuration)
This is up against Old Dandenong Road and quite a way from the departure?? end of the runway.

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Squawk7700 17th Jun 2019 03:25

I assumed EFATO. You’d probably only have to get to a couple of hundred feet after takeoff to get to that point.

Lucky they got it down where they did and probably lucky they didn’t try and turn back.

Sunfish 17th Jun 2019 03:50

.........or simulated EFATO and oops!

roundsounds 17th Jun 2019 04:21


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10495390)
.........or simulated EFATO and oops!

it’s a Jabiru....

IFEZ 17th Jun 2019 04:50

Anyone know what time of the day and what the wind direction was..? It looks like maybe he was coming in from the Nth to land on 17 (rather than taking off on 35) and he's put it down on the fairway, skipped over the bunker and into the scrub. Once again, the golf course saves the day! If you're ever unlucky enough to have an EFATO or engine quit on short final at Moorabbin, you want it to happen at that end, not the other..!

Egipps 17th Jun 2019 05:18


Originally Posted by IFEZ (Post 10495408)
Anyone know what time of the day and what the wind direction was..? It looks like maybe he was coming in from the Nth to land on 17 (rather than taking off on 35) and he's put it down on the fairway, skipped over the bunker and into the scrub. Once again, the golf course saves the day! If you're ever unlucky enough to have an EFATO or engine quit on short final at Moorabbin, you want it to happen at that end, not the other..!

The aircraft was taking off, not landing. Runway 35 was in use. Not sure if it was doing circuits, or just planning to take off and depart. We landed at 3.15 pm and I understand it happened right about then.


kaz3g 17th Jun 2019 12:08


Originally Posted by roundsounds (Post 10495400)

it’s a Jabiru....

Fortunate...it’s a great airframe to crash in!

Okihara 17th Jun 2019 13:42

If you land on a golf course after an EFATO, I just say: Mulligan!

Ixixly 17th Jun 2019 21:36

"Being assessed by paramedics", I can just see that "I'm a Paramedic, not a Pilot, but I'd give that landing a 4/10"

Glad everyone walked away alright!

Squawk7700 18th Jun 2019 01:51

Reportedly a partial power loss and vibration at 300ft after takeoff.

Buster Hyman 18th Jun 2019 01:57

I hope they asked to play through, as they don't take too kindly to that at Capital...

cooperplace 18th Jun 2019 15:40


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10496264)
Reportedly a partial power loss and vibration at 300ft after takeoff.

dropped valve? valve heads have been known to break off in these engines


peterc005 18th Jun 2019 23:11


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10496264)
Reportedly a partial power loss and vibration at 300ft after takeoff.

There have been a few planes over the years that have landed in the same golf course due to carburetor icing. The weather at the time and engine symptoms are consistent with this.

ACMS 19th Jun 2019 01:54


Originally Posted by peterc005 (Post 10497158)
There have been a few planes over the years that have landed in the same golf course due to carburetor icing. The weather at the time and engine symptoms are consistent with this.


On landing yes, but they were on takeoff. How likely is Carb ice with full power with the throttle butterfly full open?

Squawk7700 19th Jun 2019 03:54


Originally Posted by cooperplace (Post 10496762)
dropped valve? valve heads have been known to break off in these engines

Possibly popped off a pot too. You can usually keep going with a popped pot to get home but maintaining a climb would be impossible in a J160. A J170 may have had a chance if fuel / weight was low.

peterc005 19th Jun 2019 09:50


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10497230)



On landing yes, but they were on takeoff. How likely is Carb ice with full power with the throttle butterfly full open?

It's happened before at this time of year. Maybe it did lose a cylinder, but carby ice is my bet.

Recall LAMEs talking about heading over to the golf course with a fine pitch prop to recover a SE Piper where the same thing probably happened.

Problem with Carburetor Icing is it's hard to prove once the plane is on the ground and ice has melted.

golfbananajam 19th Jun 2019 09:56

Carb icing could have happened during the relatively low power taxi but the power checks prior to departure should have found that.

Squawk7700 19th Jun 2019 11:09


Originally Posted by golfbananajam (Post 10497511)
Carb icing could have happened during the relatively low power taxi but the power checks prior to departure should have found that.

Not likely. Would need to be moving fast / flying with air ramming into the inlet.


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