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The left wing commentariat at the ABC and The Age and Fairfax all had their resignations in their back pockets on election night and job offers as press secretaries for putative Labor Ministers sitting on the mantelpiece. Similarly Liberal Ministerial staff were looking at new employment options.
All that went in the garbage cans when they got home early Sunday morning.
The Liberal Government is now selecting new Ministerial staff and rearranging the chairs a little.
Who knows? Maybe CASA and it’s parent, the Department, might be in for some surprises.
All that went in the garbage cans when they got home early Sunday morning.
The Liberal Government is now selecting new Ministerial staff and rearranging the chairs a little.
Who knows? Maybe CASA and it’s parent, the Department, might be in for some surprises.
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Surely there is something better to bang on about
Well then, based on the amount of time some have spent on this thread one could be forgiven for thinking there is in fact nothing much left to do in GA - and must all but confirm its (GAs) slow, timely, but expertley prophesised demise........ 😳
Nulli,
Have you considered that the reverse is true ---- the aviation community is so quiet and "respectful" that short of the Qantas Chairman's Lounge it is unknown to politicians and the public.--- and largely talks to itself.
The result (helped by generally ignorant media) is an industry functionally invisible to the "public", so that whatever happens in the "Canberra Bubble", aviation, but particularly GA, is impotent.
After all, back in the early 2000s, the then DAS/CEO announced that CASA would be reducing the number of AOCs, CAR 30 approvals and the like to a number which CASA was comfortable surveying.
At the time it was remarked, why is CASA "comfort" more important than industry requirements.---- but CASA and its predecessors have always seen themselves as the "managers" of Australian aviation --- not just a regulatory agency. Remember, back in the GODs, DCA representatives actually sat on airline boards.
In reality, the situation that has come about because the Australian aviation community does not fight for its rights ---- and this is nothing new, civil aviation has battled the bureaucrats since shortly post WW1.--- when Australian aviation bureaucracy was created as an office of the military.
Until the aviation community unites to fight for the right to exist, the (not so) slow death by a thousand cuts will continue. Will they, probably not, with rare exceptions it hasn't happened yet.
In my view, the major reason why US aviation is so successful is because of a very different national ethos in USA --- people accept having to fight for rights ---- that is how the US started -- here in Australian aviation we just fight among each other for the crumbs.
The reason that there are such strong aviation lobby's in US is because participants have banded together ---- to enforce their rights, just have a look at the total membership of AOPA US and EAA, something like 60+% of pilots alone ---- that is the sort of thing politicians take notice of ---- and it shows.
Tootle pip!!
Have you considered that the reverse is true ---- the aviation community is so quiet and "respectful" that short of the Qantas Chairman's Lounge it is unknown to politicians and the public.--- and largely talks to itself.
The result (helped by generally ignorant media) is an industry functionally invisible to the "public", so that whatever happens in the "Canberra Bubble", aviation, but particularly GA, is impotent.
After all, back in the early 2000s, the then DAS/CEO announced that CASA would be reducing the number of AOCs, CAR 30 approvals and the like to a number which CASA was comfortable surveying.
At the time it was remarked, why is CASA "comfort" more important than industry requirements.---- but CASA and its predecessors have always seen themselves as the "managers" of Australian aviation --- not just a regulatory agency. Remember, back in the GODs, DCA representatives actually sat on airline boards.
In reality, the situation that has come about because the Australian aviation community does not fight for its rights ---- and this is nothing new, civil aviation has battled the bureaucrats since shortly post WW1.--- when Australian aviation bureaucracy was created as an office of the military.
Until the aviation community unites to fight for the right to exist, the (not so) slow death by a thousand cuts will continue. Will they, probably not, with rare exceptions it hasn't happened yet.
In my view, the major reason why US aviation is so successful is because of a very different national ethos in USA --- people accept having to fight for rights ---- that is how the US started -- here in Australian aviation we just fight among each other for the crumbs.
The reason that there are such strong aviation lobby's in US is because participants have banded together ---- to enforce their rights, just have a look at the total membership of AOPA US and EAA, something like 60+% of pilots alone ---- that is the sort of thing politicians take notice of ---- and it shows.
Tootle pip!!
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Warnervale, despite being PPR, has actually dropped its' landing fees from a couple years ago! Yep, you read that correctly. They finally included a 700> kg rate, that is 'only' $8.25 for each and every landing.
So instead of costing $495 an hour in landing fees for an hour of circuits in my RAAus-registered RV-9 - and that's just the landing fees, not the hourly cost, or the extra $110 just to refuel there (excluding the actual fuel purchased), it now costs "only" $150 an hour in landing fees. Plus the $110 "refuelling fee" if you BYO jerrycans and refuel 'on council land'
Still PPR though.

Why not charge every motorist a milage payment of $40/km for their LGA? That'd be what it works out to for the amount of runway you'd use.