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Old 27th Sep 2018, 14:38
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What does “kek” mean?
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 23:03
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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight
What does “kek” mean?
It's interchangeable with lol, the internet picked it up as back in day of world of warcraft of a player of a different faction said lol to you the text would come out as kek
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When I was in Darwin, those that came north looking for work at the end of the dry season could often expect to pack supermarket shelves until the start of the dry season when things started to rev up again. You might be lucky, but you need to have the patience to knock on as many doors as you can find and get to know the folk there. Also keep you eyes out for jobs in other parts of the top-end and the Kimberley's. Suggest that you need to be current on at least a C210 or C206/PA32 etc. Good Luck!
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The criticism of your spelling is on point. It might give an insight into a few attitudes that an operator will want to assess, i.e.
(1) Attention to detail (pretty important in this job)
(2) Setting a high personal standard (doing the right thing when nobody else is around to judge you. Think remote, single pilot base)
(3) not accepting other’s lower standards as justification for your own mistakes
(4) Acceptance of criticism

I’ve employed pilots for these situations and these are traits I would look for.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 20:42
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You’re gonna need to get over it spike dude..spelling, grammar and punctuation aren’t taught at schools these days so your pool of suitable candidates is quickly drying up..

also if you’re as tough as nails like you’re suggesting then you’re gonna need a safe space built next to your interview room..walls preferably painted in relaxing neutral tones
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 00:39
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Originally Posted by mattyj
You’re gonna need to get over it spike dude..spelling, grammar and punctuation aren’t taught at schools these days so your pool of suitable candidates is quickly drying up..

also if you’re as tough as nails like you’re suggesting then you’re gonna need a safe space built next to your interview room..walls preferably painted in relaxing neutral tones
Why all the venom? My days of recruiting pilots are long gone. (as you should have realised from the tense in my post). Many of my peers share the same sentiments I expressed and are still in a position to hire. Ignore them as you see fit. As for your contention that I think I am “tough as nails”? I made no such inference. But if you would like to switch from keyboard warrior and avail yourself to some contact counselling I would be happy to oblige. Your call.
P.S. That was me being nice.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 04:59
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Spelling and grammar a a decent requirement for many (generally based on previous people hired). A simple mistake is just that but if there is a trend there may be bigger things at play, as others have mentioned. In my admittedly small sample, I've found links between it and those that can't follow paperwork requirements.

There are still a few companies up there that don't require MECIR or a NVFR, however, an increasing amount are wanting canditates to have at least a night rating.
You'll end up doing some supervised flying before you're let loose so I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. As long as the piece of paper says you have the rating, you're good. Definitely wouldn't hurt to get some recency back, rusty flying is easily picked up by those that will take you for a check flight.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 05:57
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Spelling, grammar and punctuation not taught and obsolete? How do these morons expect to read an aircraft manual and checklist? Let alone write up a defect coherently?

B sur to chk ful levs?

Dnt xcd 120 nots?

Gr dn?

Engn msses.

As the two ronnies sang, a comma can be important, as in; "What is this thing called, love?"

I guess it doesn't matter so much with reading regulations; they are incomprehensible to anyone.
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
Spelling, grammar and punctuation not taught and obsolete? How do these morons expect to read an aircraft manual and checklist? Let alone write up a defect coherently?

B sur to chk ful levs?

Dnt xcd 120 nots?

Gr dn?

Engn msses.

As the two ronnies sang, a comma can be important, as in; "What is this thing called, love?"

I guess it doesn't matter so much with reading regulations; they are incomprehensible to anyone.
I will say that we're looking at two extremes of the spectrum and I think that's where this argument is currently in right now.

Spelling, Grammer and so on are important but if you start splitting hairs over one mispelt word then that's where I see some people might have a problem.

Generally speaking if you've gone through year 12 and you've done a CPL and such you're not going to be illiterate.

I mean no offence to you but that's where you might have missed the point. That's understandable though as the other guy was a little broad with that obsolete comment but I think I know where he's coming from.

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Originally Posted by Sierra117
I will say that we're looking at two extremes of the spectrum and I think that's where this argument is currently in right now.

Spelling, Grammer and so on are important but if you start splitting hairs over one mispelt word then that's where I see some people might have a problem.

Generally speaking if you've gone through year 12 and you've done a CPL and such you're not going to be illiterate.

I mean no offence to you but that's where you might have missed the point. That's understandable though as the other guy was a little broad with that obsolete comment but I think I know where he's coming from.
My comments were not intended as a criticism of you Sierra. More as helpful advice. Any chief pilot worth his salt will be assessing the attitude of a candidate as much as technical skill. They are entrusting you with their aircraft and their reputation, sometimes from a distance. They need to know that you can understand and accept guidance when it is given. Your licence is a licence to learn and, believe me, it never stops. Best of luck with the trip North.

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Spelling, Grammer and so on are important
I think you will find the word is “grammar”...

but if you start splitting hairs over one mispelt word
I think you will find the word is “misspelt”....




To be honest though, if I were reviewing a job application with numerous spelling and grammar errors, I would be asking myself, “why”?

Is it that the applicant lacks attention to detail? That could affect my decision to employ them as a pilot. Poor attention to detail costs lives in this profession.

Is it that the applicant is poor at spelling and grammar? That may not affect my decision, although I would be seeking to establish that the applicant can otherwise read and communicate effectively. Poor communication skills cost lives in this profession.

Is it that the applicant cares so little about working for me that they wrote the application drunk and didn’t even bother to proof read it (or ask someone else to)? That would possibly affect my decision.

I know a very good chief pilot of a company who can’t spell, but he’s smart enough to get someone else to write his AOC applications to CASA.

Good luck in Darwin. When I was in your position, I just moved there and started knocking on doors. Then I got a job in a bar which paid enough to keep my flying current until I got a job. Futhermore, for what it’s worth, I had an expired CIR and no night rating. My first employer didn’t care. What’s more, I never actually applied to him. I just happened to meet him in a bar up there, and we got talking. That was a long time ago, but I would think a similar strategy would still be reasonable.

All the best, Fred.

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I think you will find the word is “misspelt”....

I give up .
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I give up .
Ha ha, don’t give up, I’ve just edited my post.
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To be honest though, if I were reviewing a job application with numerous spelling and grammar errors, I would be asking myself, “why”?

Is it that the applicant lacks attention to detail? That could affect my decision to employ them as a pilot. Poor attention to detail costs lives in this profession.
A point of view shared by one of my previous Employers a long time back, Derfred.
Some years ago in another thread, this subject was raised and I made a post which related an incident where my then Boss had received a resume from a person who actually would have been offered a job if not for the appalling grammar and spelling in his resume.

He binned the resume purely on the grounds mentioned in the last paragraph of your post quoted above.

I have tried to find the post using the search function but have been unable to locate it. Otherwise I would have quoted it here.
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