OPTING OUT OF MEDICAL RECORDS
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OPTING OUT OF MEDICAL RECORDS
I'm amazed with all the paranoia that goes on this site, this topic hasn't been raised.
From today you have three months to opt out of having your medical records accessible by any medical practitioner through the government medical records site. That includes the good people at AVMED.
Just image this scenario. Your family medical history has a branch of the family that has heart issues. YOU HOWEVER DONT. Just to be on the safe side your local doctor, not your DAME decides to action some tests, not because you are unhealthy but simply you've turn 60.
Nothing is found and both you and your doctor feel the box has been ticked.
Now enter AVMED, you need to do a medical, the good people at AVMED just in the interest in safety, decide to look at your online history. They see the heart test and bingo, sorry no renewal until we have assessed the results. Oh and by the way go and get a $1,000's worth of test just to be sure.
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN. GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS DO SIMILAR ACTIONS EVERY DAY!!!!!
I for one opted out, not because I have anything to hide, it is just I DONT TRUST THE B*****STS
What are the rest of you going to do?
From today you have three months to opt out of having your medical records accessible by any medical practitioner through the government medical records site. That includes the good people at AVMED.
Just image this scenario. Your family medical history has a branch of the family that has heart issues. YOU HOWEVER DONT. Just to be on the safe side your local doctor, not your DAME decides to action some tests, not because you are unhealthy but simply you've turn 60.
Nothing is found and both you and your doctor feel the box has been ticked.
Now enter AVMED, you need to do a medical, the good people at AVMED just in the interest in safety, decide to look at your online history. They see the heart test and bingo, sorry no renewal until we have assessed the results. Oh and by the way go and get a $1,000's worth of test just to be sure.
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN. GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS DO SIMILAR ACTIONS EVERY DAY!!!!!
I for one opted out, not because I have anything to hide, it is just I DONT TRUST THE B*****STS
What are the rest of you going to do?
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I'm amazed with all the paranoia that goes on this site, this topic hasn't been raised.
From today you have three months to opt out of having your medical records accessible by any medical practitioner through the government medical records site. That includes the good people at AVMED.
Just image this scenario. Your family medical history has a branch of the family that has heart issues. YOU HOWEVER DONT. Just to be on the safe side your local doctor, not your DAME decides to action some tests, not because you are unhealthy but simply you've turn 60.
Nothing is found and both you and your doctor feel the box has been ticked.
Now enter AVMED, you need to do a medical, the good people at AVMED just in the interest in safety, decide to look at your online history. They see the heart test and bingo, sorry no renewal until we have assessed the results. Oh and by the way go and get a $1,000's worth of test just to be sure.
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN. GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS DO SIMILAR ACTIONS EVERY DAY!!!!!
I for one opted out, not because I have anything to hide, it is just I DONT TRUST THE B*****STS
What are the rest of you going to do?
From today you have three months to opt out of having your medical records accessible by any medical practitioner through the government medical records site. That includes the good people at AVMED.
Just image this scenario. Your family medical history has a branch of the family that has heart issues. YOU HOWEVER DONT. Just to be on the safe side your local doctor, not your DAME decides to action some tests, not because you are unhealthy but simply you've turn 60.
Nothing is found and both you and your doctor feel the box has been ticked.
Now enter AVMED, you need to do a medical, the good people at AVMED just in the interest in safety, decide to look at your online history. They see the heart test and bingo, sorry no renewal until we have assessed the results. Oh and by the way go and get a $1,000's worth of test just to be sure.
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN. GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS DO SIMILAR ACTIONS EVERY DAY!!!!!
I for one opted out, not because I have anything to hide, it is just I DONT TRUST THE B*****STS
What are the rest of you going to do?
Looking tonight at the literally hundreds of organizations/people who will have legal access, hacking will be a bit of old doddle (look what has just happened with the land transfer settlement hacks, huge $$$$ disappeared already), I would think AvMed would be the least of your worries, if you do not opt out.
Pity really, becasue as a medical service properly designed, it could be a lifesaver --- the original intention.
Tootle pip!!
what if you disclose a condition now that has no known aviation ill effect and then in 18 months AVMED decides it is now an issue? sleep Apnea comes to mind as the latest trendy condition.
IT WILL GET HACKED. It’s a matter of time.
And yes, the weakness is the doctors’ computers. You hack those with access, not the central fort.
Its why why the Chinese went after the BOM as they had links into defence computers and anyone who works in a private company that has government contracts is routinely hit. Once your data is out there, you can’t get it back.
Trusting AVMED is a secondary consideration.
Also, don’t upload your DNA to ancestry websites, not to hide bad uncle Charlie, but if you want to get health insurance in 20 years. I’m sorry Mr. Brown, I see from your DNA that you have the genetic markers of heart disease, you are too great a risk to insure (or you have to pay an excess).
And yes, the weakness is the doctors’ computers. You hack those with access, not the central fort.
Its why why the Chinese went after the BOM as they had links into defence computers and anyone who works in a private company that has government contracts is routinely hit. Once your data is out there, you can’t get it back.
Trusting AVMED is a secondary consideration.
Also, don’t upload your DNA to ancestry websites, not to hide bad uncle Charlie, but if you want to get health insurance in 20 years. I’m sorry Mr. Brown, I see from your DNA that you have the genetic markers of heart disease, you are too great a risk to insure (or you have to pay an excess).
I'm amazed with all the paranoia that goes on this site, this topic hasn't been raised.
From today you have three months to opt out of having your medical records accessible by any medical practitioner through the government medical records site. That includes the good people at AVMED.
Just image this scenario. Your family medical history has a branch of the family that has heart issues. YOU HOWEVER DONT. Just to be on the safe side your local doctor, not your DAME decides to action some tests, not because you are unhealthy but simply you've turn 60.
Nothing is found and both you and your doctor feel the box has been ticked.
Now enter AVMED, you need to do a medical, the good people at AVMED just in the interest in safety, decide to look at your online history. They see the heart test and bingo, sorry no renewal until we have assessed the results. Oh and by the way go and get a $1,000's worth of test just to be sure.
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN. GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS DO SIMILAR ACTIONS EVERY DAY!!!!!
I for one opted out, not because I have anything to hide, it is just I DONT TRUST THE B*****STS
What are the rest of you going to do?
From today you have three months to opt out of having your medical records accessible by any medical practitioner through the government medical records site. That includes the good people at AVMED.
Just image this scenario. Your family medical history has a branch of the family that has heart issues. YOU HOWEVER DONT. Just to be on the safe side your local doctor, not your DAME decides to action some tests, not because you are unhealthy but simply you've turn 60.
Nothing is found and both you and your doctor feel the box has been ticked.
Now enter AVMED, you need to do a medical, the good people at AVMED just in the interest in safety, decide to look at your online history. They see the heart test and bingo, sorry no renewal until we have assessed the results. Oh and by the way go and get a $1,000's worth of test just to be sure.
DONT THINK IT WONT HAPPEN. GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS DO SIMILAR ACTIONS EVERY DAY!!!!!
I for one opted out, not because I have anything to hide, it is just I DONT TRUST THE B*****STS
What are the rest of you going to do?
If I get carted off to hospital unconscious I'd want to know that they could access my records seeing as some treatments that are normal for some people could kill me. Nothing CASA could ping me on.
If you want an Ancestry DNA test remember that what you are actually doing is not only giving your details to a religious cult but making them rich as well.
If you want an Ancestry DNA test remember that what you are actually doing is not only giving your details to a religious cult but making them rich as well.
Sleep apnoea is quite close to the top of the list of CASA AvMed trendy harassment items, if you have a BMI of any more than a starving greyhound, or meet the CASA standard for assumed decrepitude.
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It seems to me that the massive breach of privacy originating with Aviation ID is a fairly good pointer to the sorts of issues that might occur with the My Health thingy. It is as plain as day it will eventually be accessible by just about anyone.
CASA as usual are above the law and publish my home address to the World Wide Web along with the fact I own an aeroplane. This makes me decidedly nervous as we have a lot of problems with gangs of Anglo youths doing home invasions and it would be easy to mistake for one of them to confuse a poor AUSTER owner for the owner of a Cirrus.
Aviation ID has probably given my Passport, BC, drivers licence and sundry other bits of my personal information to which ever organised crime body snaffled the passwords to their system.
So I have no intention whatsoever of opening my computer front door to let in I don’t know whom.
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CASA as usual are above the law and publish my home address to the World Wide Web along with the fact I own an aeroplane. This makes me decidedly nervous as we have a lot of problems with gangs of Anglo youths doing home invasions and it would be easy to mistake for one of them to confuse a poor AUSTER owner for the owner of a Cirrus.
Aviation ID has probably given my Passport, BC, drivers licence and sundry other bits of my personal information to which ever organised crime body snaffled the passwords to their system.
So I have no intention whatsoever of opening my computer front door to let in I don’t know whom.
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To the comment above that some standard treatments for the greater many could lead to death: I'd rather have a laminated card with me at all times that states my condition in plain English than rely on some bloke's ability to access my medical record online.
What would be the advantage not to opt out by the way? There's got to be some kind of return/reward for giving some privacy away in my view. Otherwise I'd only see the downside that some could use my records against me in the future.
What would be the advantage not to opt out by the way? There's got to be some kind of return/reward for giving some privacy away in my view. Otherwise I'd only see the downside that some could use my records against me in the future.
Jetjr,
The blurb also says that A&E departments in hospitals will have an override code to give them access without your PIN. How long, do you suppose, will it take for the bad guys to have this code given that literally thousands of health workers in all the A&E departments in this country will legitimately have this code available? An SMS is not much use after the event.
Should you have a medical condition, type 1 diabetes comes to mind, ensure that you wear a medic alert wristband or neck chain. You can even get a tattoo, some of my pals have neat T1 ink.
The blurb also says that A&E departments in hospitals will have an override code to give them access without your PIN. How long, do you suppose, will it take for the bad guys to have this code given that literally thousands of health workers in all the A&E departments in this country will legitimately have this code available? An SMS is not much use after the event.
Should you have a medical condition, type 1 diabetes comes to mind, ensure that you wear a medic alert wristband or neck chain. You can even get a tattoo, some of my pals have neat T1 ink.
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A secure approach would be where the data is encrypted, and you have the only key. If you don't provide the key, nobody can access the data - under any circumstances. The only way to get it without your permission is to break the encryption, which for modern encryption is impractical within your lifetime.
With the approach they have now, all the data can be accessed with a sufficiently good reason, regardless of your access settings. In a medical emergency they'll allow access immediately. Police can also get access; from the ABC:
The ADHA is authorised by law to disclose someone's health information if it "reasonably believes" it's necessary for preventing or investigating crimes and protecting the public revenue, among other things specified under section 70 of the My Health Records Act.
The agency was unable to provide a definition of "protecting the public revenue" by deadline.
The agency was unable to provide a definition of "protecting the public revenue" by deadline.
If personal information is disclosed to law enforcement, the decision about whether to notify the My Health Record holder will be decided "case-by-case".
CASA is not law enforcement, but it wouldn't surprise me if they get access to much the same thing on "public safety" grounds.
If I get carted off to hospital unconscious I'd want to know that they could access my records seeing as some treatments that are normal for some people could kill me. Nothing CASA could ping me on.
If you want an Ancestry DNA test remember that what you are actually doing is not only giving your details to a religious cult but making them rich as well.
If you want an Ancestry DNA test remember that what you are actually doing is not only giving your details to a religious cult but making them rich as well.
They say that 5.9M people already have a record, but what they neglect to say is that more than 1M of those were the result of the 2016 'opt-out' trials.
Department of Health | Evaluation of the My Health Record Participation Trials
From https://www.myhealthrecord.gov.au/about/privacy-policy
Department of Health | Evaluation of the My Health Record Participation Trials
From https://www.myhealthrecord.gov.au/about/privacy-policy
There are limited other circumstances in which your information may be collected, used and disclosed under the My Health Records Act. These limited circumstances include the provision of indemnity cover for healthcare providers, disclosure to courts and tribunals, for the purposes of coroner's investigations, and for law enforcement purposes.