Lilydale crash
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Geez Zanthrus, "Judge not, lest you be judged", ring any bells? Ones flying abilities does not necessarily relate directly to ones radio skills, especially not if you're from another country and used to doing it a bit different and still adjusting perhaps?
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[QUOTE=StickWithTheTruth;10094905]Clearly this pilot was not versed in Roger's (patent pending) Bonanza anti-lock breaking technique, no doubt required by all the rain Melbourne has had today. QUOTE]
I'd always thought that Roger M's Bonanza experience was such that he wasn't into "breaking" Bonanzas?
I'd always thought that Roger M's Bonanza experience was such that he wasn't into "breaking" Bonanzas?
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Originally Posted by topdrop
I remember an N reg C340 force landing into sugar cane about 10NM South of Cairns in the early 2000s due a fuel issue. Pilot bought another N reg C340 and continued his journey around the world.
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---- a bit dodgy on the radio re his procedures to me. If so not really surprising result.
That's it then, a pilot who has substantial international experience, ie: He got this far, hasn't complied with Australia's unique, stilted, pedantic and inflexible often non-ICAO "radio procedures", so he is clearly incompetent, an accident looking for somewhere to happen, according to Zanthrus.
I don't suppose, after all these years, that I should be surprised by this sort of provincial and parochial garbage in Australia.
Tootle pip!!
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I remember an N reg C340 force landing into sugar cane about 10NM South of Cairns in the early 2000s due a fuel issue. Pilot bought another N reg C340 and continued his journey around the world.
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I'd always thought that Roger M's Bonanza experience was such that he wasn't into "breaking" Bonanzas?
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Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth
Of course he doesn't, I didn't say that. Roger's anti-lock braking technique is for a wet grass runway to AVOID an overrun.
DF
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Originally Posted by zanthrus
I am sure I heard this guy flying out of YSBK yesterday. Was definitely a C340 and he sounded a bit dodgy on the radio re his procedures to me. If so not really surprising result.
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Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth
Oh ok, yeah I know, I'm a bit slow and not the smartest tool in the shed.
DF.
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Originally Posted by kaz3g
Perhaps the pilot landed on the "short" 850m instead of the longer 1350m runway?
The slippery grass can catch you out, it has me! And one of the LIL staff put a Bonanza off the end a little while back, so it can happen to the best of us!
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Originally Posted by triton140
Hi Kaz - both short ATM - during construction of new taxiway.
The slippery grass can catch you out, it has me! And one of the LIL staff put a Bonanza off the end a little while back, so it can happen to the best of us!
The slippery grass can catch you out, it has me! And one of the LIL staff put a Bonanza off the end a little while back, so it can happen to the best of us!
I wish they had never turned the cross strip into a taxiway.
Kaz
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Originally Posted by zanthrus
I am sure I heard this guy flying out of YSBK yesterday. Was definitely a C340 and he sounded a bit dodgy on the radio re his procedures to me. If so not really surprising result.
The assessment of a pilots ability seems to be based on the quality of their radio calls and the number of bars on their epaulets. The fact a pilot can’t land in a crosswind, is petrified of stalls, taxies against the brakes, starts their aircraft 2m from hangar doors with the slipstream filling the hangar with dust and causing the aircraft in the hangar to collide is old fashioned stuff. Their multiple EFBs will protect them!
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I definitely heard a European (German?) sounding pilot in a C340 at YSBK sounding very unconfident (is that a word?) re either radio or procedures out of YSBK or whatever. It may not have been the same pilot as the accident. But I know what I heard!
Happy to be Sledded, If I was wrong in my "assumption" then I apologise.
Everyone make mistakes especially me!
Cheers, Z!
Happy to be Sledded, If I was wrong in my "assumption" then I apologise.
Everyone make mistakes especially me!
Cheers, Z!
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Originally Posted by zanthrus
I definitely heard a European (German?) sounding pilot in a C340 at YSBK sounding very unconfident (is that a word?) re either radio or procedures out of YSBK or whatever. It may not have been the same pilot as the accident. But I know what I heard!
