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Old 29th Oct 2017, 04:16
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SWTT..got that. Enlarged the pic...and there are the vgs at the fin t/e,...aah
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It was VH-JMW a C310 attempting to land at The Lakes. ERSA says there is a risk of windshear.
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Windshear

Originally Posted by bentleg
It was VH-JMW a C310 attempting to land at The Lakes. ERSA says there is a risk of windshear.
Grant owned the property and would have conducted many departures and arrivals there. It is difficult to understand what may have caused this tragic accident and I, for one, will be surprised if it was pilot error.
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https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31..../data=!3m1!1e3 picture of airfield
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Lakes Airfield

Originally Posted by Kulwin Park
Camden Haven airstrip is approx 5 Km north on the Eastern side of the Highway running alongside the Camden Haven River.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 01:41
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It is difficult to understand what may have caused this tragic accident and I, for one, will be surprised if it was pilot error.
Me too!

Very, very, very sad news...
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Mr Hill, who is from the Central Coast, said he was less than a kilometre from where the plane came down.

"I saw a light aircraft banking sharply and completely turned on its side. [It] went completely over and went into a bush area about 15 metres from the highway," he said.

"I knew something catastrophic was happening because of the way it was banking.

"It basically banked on its side as it sort of swept over that tree line on the other side of the highway and then it sharply rolled onto it's back and then came straight down.

"It was quite frightening to see actually. And there was no explosion, which was amazing, as it hit that tree line and basically disintegrated."
My italics but the eye witness accounts suggests a possible engine failure and possibly not much fuel on board. Light piston twins can have complicated fuel systems. As the PIC was financially well off and that the aircraft would have been meticulously maintained, I would be surprised if it was mechanical failure.
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As the PIC was financially well off and that the aircraft would have been meticulously maintained, I would be surprised if it was mechanical failure.
Quote of the century. Are you actually being serious?
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Originally Posted by Lookleft
My italics but the eye witness accounts suggests a possible engine failure and possibly not much fuel on board. Light piston twins can have complicated fuel systems. As the PIC was financially well off and that the aircraft would have been meticulously maintained, I would be surprised if it was mechanical failure.
Probably the two best maintained aircraft I have seen were JMV and BUR.
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I'll add LGC & KMY to that.....
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 04:54
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Originally Posted by Lookleft
Light piston twins can have complicated fuel systems.
Especially Cessnas with tip tanks.

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Old 30th Oct 2017, 06:19
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Originally Posted by RatsoreA
Probably the two best maintained aircraft I have seen were JMV and BUR.
JMV or JMW?

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Old 30th Oct 2017, 06:43
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Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth
Quote of the century. Are you actually being serious?
Of course it couldnt be pilot error because in the prune world ghat never happens. Ive heard its had 600k spent on it. One has to ask no fire ?
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[QUOTE/aircraft banking sharply and completely turned on its side. /QUOTE]

VMCA?
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 08:39
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I would be surprised if it was mechanical failure
Don't like to say it, but I'm with LL.
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Did a double take earlier today when I received a note from the ATSB, referring to the completed investigation into BWZ at Mildura - a C310 with a couple of eerie similarities to the current accident.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2015-129/
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 10:22
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So it's not pilot error. It's not a mechanical issue.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 20:20
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The cause of this spate of accidents is obvious: Depressed CVD pilots operating LOP colliding with drones.

We need to make more rules and give CASA more powers to achieve more safety.
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Old 30th Oct 2017, 21:57
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Don't encourage them, Lead Balloon.

The boss is already dreading what the knee jerk reaction will be to the C210s this month.
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
The cause of this spate of accidents is obvious: Depressed CVD pilots operating LOP colliding with drones.

We need to make more rules and give CASA more powers to achieve more safety.
Folks,
What about "sleep apnoea" --- that seems to be the CASA "threat to air safety" de jour.
Tootle pip!!
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