NT C210

[Bend alot]

Home schooled yes but 9, I know its a few.

I don't know the extent of structural rebuilds he has taught them, but I know Amish has completely rebuild a few wings in his time.

[Capt Fathom]

The operator is Amish. Has 9 kids all homeschooled

What the F has that got to do with a C210 coming down?

[Corvallis]

True

Yes that is true.

[Desert Flower]

Originally Posted by Corvallis

The operator is Amish. Has 9 kids all homeschooled.

Amish? I didn't know there were any Amish in Australia. And given that one would be an aircraft operator/engineer is even stranger - as their beliefs forbid them from flying.

DF.

[Bend alot]

Originally Posted by Capt Fathom

What the F has that got to do with a C210 coming down?

It is a Areostar thing! is my guess.

[Connedrod]

Originally Posted by Bend alot

The operator generally keeps his cards very close to his chest in any incident/accident. He is also a very capable engineer and if he was at the site will have a pretty good idea of what happened and at what stage, it will be interesting to speak to him in a few years about it.

Really.
Ive known hin for 40 years.

[Biggles78]

I was talking to a young aspiring soon to be CPL and told him one of the most powerful words that he can use with ATC is UNABLE. He was surprised by the word. Do students not get taught Unable, Require or Request any more and when or how to use them?


I am in no way insinuating that the above words would have related in any way with this tragedy.

[Bend alot]

Originally Posted by Connedrod

Really.
Ive known hin for 40 years.

Yep since EAC on the old side when he was Chief Gingerbeer. But his rebuilds were before that.

[Corvallis]

Atsb report

When does the atsb initial report come out. I thought usually 30 days but nothing yet.

[Bend alot]

Unless a interested party has an objection to part of the draft report - that can create a delay.

[threegreensconfirmed]

Now states "Inflight Break Up" in the title of the report. But no further details.

[Bend alot]

And the cause of the "inflight break up" will be very interesting.

Will they - if proven change the tile to inflight break up caused by design and AFM limitations exceeded?

[DynamicStall]

Investigation: AO-2017-102 - In-flight breakup involving Cessna 210, VH-HWY, 22 km E of Darwin Airport, Northern Territory, on 23 October 2017

[Left 270]

A lot further between the wings and fuselage than previously reported, not a nice read.

[Enroute77]

Is it true that a lot of pilots have resigned from the operator?

[Left 270]

At the moment that’s true of EVERY operator.

[Duck Pilot]

At least we know what caused the accident, Nasty CB......

Lots of lessons to be learnt from this accident for all, including me who has been stuck twice by lightning in a bigger aeroplane.

Keep away from the CBs!!!

[Octane]

Hello Duck,

Could you tell us about the lightning strikes? I'm curious..

Thanks

[Duck Pilot]

Dash 8s, once in solid IMC when the WX radar gave no indication of CBs and the other was in VMC well away from the CB. First one resulted in a prop change and a hole in the cabin roof. Pretty common to have lightning come out of CBs in clear air up to 20 miles or further from the active cell - they don’t teach this stuff in flying schools, it’s learnt from experience....

[zzuf]

Seems that ATSB folk still subscribe to the old Va myth.
Bad form to plot Va against ground speed when they have no idea of the real CAS.