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Posters frequently complain about the noise but there are none yet in service. Helicopters have noise from the engine, man and tail rotors. Electric vehicles won’t have any engine or tail rotor noise. They are composite construction, the engines are nor as heavy and have one moving part and there is no fuel load to lift. In this noise sensitive world, don’t you reckon the engineers have thought about this a bit?
Fujii, there has never been a rooftop helipad in Oz, and probably never will, other than those for hospitals, and they are generally on top of the carpark.
Or this...
Just one day I hope that some thing will reduce the noise as I fly all day.
Wait a minute what are these new noise cancelling headsets?
Do they work?
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Now I am no expert but I think in the not too distant future we will or can have noise cancelling as standard within our house or even below a flight level - maybe even personally by a smart phone app!
My question would be do we have vertical and horizontal separation at 10 feet or 10 meters! And who tells CASA they have no control over this flight class or airspace!
Wait a minute what are these new noise cancelling headsets?
Do they work?
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Now I am no expert but I think in the not too distant future we will or can have noise cancelling as standard within our house or even below a flight level - maybe even personally by a smart phone app!
My question would be do we have vertical and horizontal separation at 10 feet or 10 meters! And who tells CASA they have no control over this flight class or airspace!
Icarus, a gas platform is on an oil rig out at sea, not in the middle of a city. It has a special purpose, same as a rooftop helipad for a hospital.
Where was that rooftop pad in your shot - a hospital?
Where was that rooftop pad in your shot - a hospital?
Fujii, does an electric fan make a noise? By your standards it should be totally silent, but turn a fan up full blast and there is electric motor noise and noise from the air being stirred like crazy by that piddly little rotor. Multiply that by 12 and see how silent it is.
But there is a battery of considerable weight. And all those electrons that get turned into noise....
there is no fuel load to lift.
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I did not say a fan makes no noise. What I was saying is that you won’t have main and tail rotor and engine noise. Why multiply the noise by twelve? The ones in the link have two rotors.
As for landing sites, there are plenty of places around. Think of the number of sporting grounds that get no use during the week. If the demand is there, the infrastructure will become available.
Don’t look at the future through the prism of a Sydney centric, CASA biased nation. Remember, one hundred and twenty years ago freeways weren’t needed and horseless carriages were for the wealthy.
As for landing sites, there are plenty of places around. Think of the number of sporting grounds that get no use during the week. If the demand is there, the infrastructure will become available.
Don’t look at the future through the prism of a Sydney centric, CASA biased nation. Remember, one hundred and twenty years ago freeways weren’t needed and horseless carriages were for the wealthy.
A few years ago I brought a personal power pack and jump starter.
I removed the battery completly from a 1.6L car and connected this unit and started the car with no hesitation.
It is around the size of 3 to 4 smart phones and includes several lights switches and buttons. It weighs 600 grams and charges fast and holds charge for more than 6 months.
So a few years later I guess we would have better batteries again - I also see a charging system of both solar covered surfaces of the entire craft and descending via auto type rotation to feed power back to the batteries.
I removed the battery completly from a 1.6L car and connected this unit and started the car with no hesitation.
It is around the size of 3 to 4 smart phones and includes several lights switches and buttons. It weighs 600 grams and charges fast and holds charge for more than 6 months.
So a few years later I guess we would have better batteries again - I also see a charging system of both solar covered surfaces of the entire craft and descending via auto type rotation to feed power back to the batteries.
The world would be a static place if there were no dreamers. That is what fires up inventions. But you gotta temper your dreams with a little reality.
Landing anything on a sporting field is subject to a council, and needs to be covered by their public liability insurance. I have wasted too much time trying to get councils to approve helicopter landings. In some cases, they said yes, but changed their mind before we got to do the landing. In all other cases, it wasn't just "No" but "F**K NO!!!" Even telling them that we would have an area fenced off and have ground staff to keep lookers away.
Won't matter if Lord Vader was at the controls or if it was an Uuuber Spaceship with Big G himself as a passenger, some goose in council would still say no. Things were different in the 70s and 80s before the litigation society took hold, and we made plenty of landings on sports fields, even in the middle of a park in the Domain, and Sydney University, Cock-or-two Island, and Wentworth Park. But not any more.
Even a landing on a beach, below the high tide mark, in an area which is owned by nobody, can be banned by these stupid councils - first example that springs to mind is the Central Coast council. The Nepean council in Melbourne has declared itself a helicopter-free zone after some operators stood on the toes of some well-connected people.
And don't kid yourself that "these are not helicopters, they will be allowed to land anywhere."
I actually wish that the jetsons-style flying cars were a reality, I truly do, but 45 years in aviation has shown me otherwise. Sore head from the number of brick walls I have bumped into, and CA$A hasn't shown itself willing to knock some walls down, rather they want to build new ones.
Landing anything on a sporting field is subject to a council, and needs to be covered by their public liability insurance. I have wasted too much time trying to get councils to approve helicopter landings. In some cases, they said yes, but changed their mind before we got to do the landing. In all other cases, it wasn't just "No" but "F**K NO!!!" Even telling them that we would have an area fenced off and have ground staff to keep lookers away.
Won't matter if Lord Vader was at the controls or if it was an Uuuber Spaceship with Big G himself as a passenger, some goose in council would still say no. Things were different in the 70s and 80s before the litigation society took hold, and we made plenty of landings on sports fields, even in the middle of a park in the Domain, and Sydney University, Cock-or-two Island, and Wentworth Park. But not any more.
Even a landing on a beach, below the high tide mark, in an area which is owned by nobody, can be banned by these stupid councils - first example that springs to mind is the Central Coast council. The Nepean council in Melbourne has declared itself a helicopter-free zone after some operators stood on the toes of some well-connected people.
And don't kid yourself that "these are not helicopters, they will be allowed to land anywhere."
I actually wish that the jetsons-style flying cars were a reality, I truly do, but 45 years in aviation has shown me otherwise. Sore head from the number of brick walls I have bumped into, and CA$A hasn't shown itself willing to knock some walls down, rather they want to build new ones.
This will not start in Australia because of CASA and an aft thinking government, but in another country possibly over the ditch or even an African nation as the test bed by a big Multi or a few combined.
Once the bugs (a few crashes) are sorted, the CASA's of the World will need to be put in their place for governance of manned craft - then their days are numbered as the power they are now. Seems every country has a bit of CASA in its system.
Uber/ Microsoft/ Amazon may join force to bribe enough governments that CASA and the like only need a small airspace sector to govern - Governments need $,s and that aint from petrol/diesel in the future nor from home mounted solar.
Air tax will be that revenue.
Once the bugs (a few crashes) are sorted, the CASA's of the World will need to be put in their place for governance of manned craft - then their days are numbered as the power they are now. Seems every country has a bit of CASA in its system.
Uber/ Microsoft/ Amazon may join force to bribe enough governments that CASA and the like only need a small airspace sector to govern - Governments need $,s and that aint from petrol/diesel in the future nor from home mounted solar.
Air tax will be that revenue.
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the CASA's of the World will need to be put in their place for governance of manned craft
Dream on, the CASA's of this world are largely made of the same material and you will almost certainly be talking about a common airspace. Not to mention no one is addressing the problems of security and third party insurance and these two simply won't go away. (My post earlier, #34).
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and you will almost certainly be talking about a common airspace.
Dream on, the CASA's of this world are largely made of the same material and you will almost certainly be talking about a common airspace. Not to mention no one is addressing the problems of security and third party insurance and these two simply won't go away. (My post earlier, #34).
Example: So yer don't like poster XYZ123. Go to the computer hacker web site 'makeitcrash.com.ng' and pay $500 in bitcoin and next time poster XYZ123 goes for a trip in a pilotless drone it will suffer compleat control and propulsion systems shutdown at 2000' over Melbourne city..
There are some amazing human carrying drones being developed and flown right now though "the problems of security" is what will stop them being used as anything more then test rigs over Australian city's and towns until the flight computers become hacker proof.
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"Security"
Example: So yer don't like poster XYZ123. Go to the computer hacker web site 'makeitcrash.com.ng' and pay $500 in bitcoin and next time poster XYZ123 goes for a trip in a pilotless drone it will suffer compleat control and propulsion systems shutdown at 2000' over Melbourne city..
There are some amazing human carrying drones being developed and flown right now though "the problems of security" is what will stop them being used as anything more then test rigs over Australian city's and towns until the flight computers become hacker proof.
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Example: So yer don't like poster XYZ123. Go to the computer hacker web site 'makeitcrash.com.ng' and pay $500 in bitcoin and next time poster XYZ123 goes for a trip in a pilotless drone it will suffer compleat control and propulsion systems shutdown at 2000' over Melbourne city..
There are some amazing human carrying drones being developed and flown right now though "the problems of security" is what will stop them being used as anything more then test rigs over Australian city's and towns until the flight computers become hacker proof.
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Or a quote in this one "anybody want to crash a few airliners"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlKDkTbUFhU
I don't think security is a real issue that can not easily be dealt with, similar or more damage can/could be done hacking into cars and trucks computers.
2 or more independent flying and navigating systems could be used and any conflicting data lead to a safe mode landing.
Also a drone will be of a fairly light mass and not carry lots of combustible fuel, so its targets would need to be very strategic and defenceless. Yes we could load it up with explosives and send it off empty to a target to detonate on arrival - but we can fit a sensor to detect that and instantly report it and disable flight.
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I don't think security is a real issue that can not easily be dealt with, similar or more damage can/could be done hacking into cars and trucks computers.
Good Bend a lot, it would appear you have solved all the Middle Eastern problems then? Not to mention the terrorist's avowed aim to wipe all non believers off the face of the earth if they don't convert to Islam.
Relative has been involved in the testing of drones of all sizes for military purposes, without any terrorist input the crash rate is high, sometimes due loss of control brought about by nothing more than a disturbance of radio signals in the atmosphere.
Good Bend a lot, it would appear you have solved all the Middle Eastern problems then? Not to mention the terrorist's avowed aim to wipe all non believers off the face of the earth if they don't convert to Islam.
Relative has been involved in the testing of drones of all sizes for military purposes, without any terrorist input the crash rate is high, sometimes due loss of control brought about by nothing more than a disturbance of radio signals in the atmosphere.
Relative has been involved in the testing of drones of all sizes for military purposes, without any terrorist input the crash rate is high, sometimes due loss of control brought about by nothing more than a disturbance of radio signals in the atmosphere.
Why use "radio" waves?
I think forever it has been private sector that makes things work - military are institutional and the fellow 4 promotions bellow probably knows why they crash but his boss above made the call on something that they wont change just to keep face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkCQ_-Id8zI
Or a quote in this one "anybody want to crash a few airliners"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlKDkTbUFhU
I don't think security is a real issue that can not easily be dealt with, similar or more damage can/could be done hacking into cars and trucks computers.
2 or more independent flying and navigating systems could be used and any conflicting data lead to a safe mode landing.
Also a drone will be of a fairly light mass and not carry lots of combustible fuel, so its targets would need to be very strategic and defenceless. Yes we could load it up with explosives and send it off empty to a target to detonate on arrival - but we can fit a sensor to detect that and instantly report it and disable flight.
Or a quote in this one "anybody want to crash a few airliners"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlKDkTbUFhU
I don't think security is a real issue that can not easily be dealt with, similar or more damage can/could be done hacking into cars and trucks computers.
2 or more independent flying and navigating systems could be used and any conflicting data lead to a safe mode landing.
Also a drone will be of a fairly light mass and not carry lots of combustible fuel, so its targets would need to be very strategic and defenceless. Yes we could load it up with explosives and send it off empty to a target to detonate on arrival - but we can fit a sensor to detect that and instantly report it and disable flight.
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Not sure what airports you use, the ones I use seem to have a high % of security guards that have a Middle Eastern appearance.
Why use "radio" waves?
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No matter what well researched and reasoned argument you put before him Binghi will reply with a baseless fact free load of discredited nonsense or he will completely change the subject and thus avoid answering you at all.
You're wasting your time with him but it may make you feel better when you reflect on the fact that even today there a few people out there that don't believe man has walked on the moon and there are the odd few that believe the earth is flat. It took thousands of years before almost the whole population accepted that the earth is a sphere.
I see several ways that can be used to stop these from being hacked.
One is to have no external control of flight to destination, but have a emergency stop that can be activated by proximity sensors or sensitive areas and or police. But this is just a auto land. The navigation system will be by 2 means and they must match exactly for the flight to commence. This will have pre programed flights on its hard drive, the passenger then buys the destination flight ticket some form of app to your phone or a USB stick. This will have your GPS track and alt info. So lets say it is a USB - this destination you brought gets matched to the flight on the hard drive of the drone. The flight will then take place on that exact route with no external flight changes unless the emergency is activated - but this will just pause the flight and land.
The second would be the opposite and be more like how Bitcoin works - many computers used to verify the safe flight of all drones all the time, so many that they can not all be hacked fast enough. This would give more freedom of flight paths but be more complicated.
I don't expect there will be private people transport drones - but you may own your own capsule that the drone attaches to.
A smart government would jump on this - renewable energy on the rise!
* Sell the flights to the public as monthly subscriptions (Netflix, Microsoft, NBN - fast or slow).
* Sell capsules to the public. (A new model each year - iPhone).
* Collect data from the public.
* Reduced cost of road maintenance and upgrades.
* Less staff to employ on current public transport.
One is to have no external control of flight to destination, but have a emergency stop that can be activated by proximity sensors or sensitive areas and or police. But this is just a auto land. The navigation system will be by 2 means and they must match exactly for the flight to commence. This will have pre programed flights on its hard drive, the passenger then buys the destination flight ticket some form of app to your phone or a USB stick. This will have your GPS track and alt info. So lets say it is a USB - this destination you brought gets matched to the flight on the hard drive of the drone. The flight will then take place on that exact route with no external flight changes unless the emergency is activated - but this will just pause the flight and land.
The second would be the opposite and be more like how Bitcoin works - many computers used to verify the safe flight of all drones all the time, so many that they can not all be hacked fast enough. This would give more freedom of flight paths but be more complicated.
I don't expect there will be private people transport drones - but you may own your own capsule that the drone attaches to.
A smart government would jump on this - renewable energy on the rise!
* Sell the flights to the public as monthly subscriptions (Netflix, Microsoft, NBN - fast or slow).
* Sell capsules to the public. (A new model each year - iPhone).
* Collect data from the public.
* Reduced cost of road maintenance and upgrades.
* Less staff to employ on current public transport.