For the naysayers.
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"...They plan to add a ballistic parachute,..."
That shows confidence in their product..:) I'm looking forward to that Jetsons future though after somebody else works out all the bugs..:cool: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons . |
Fantastic...the way of the future.
Flying a Robbo costs megabucks for a licence and is mechanically complex. Electric 4/6/8'copter is simple and easy to fly. Altho my design isnt as shapely in the fuse, and has only 6 rotors...I have incorporated a central tube for a ballistic parachute. Nothing wrong with that...having a safety feature to CYA is not a bad thing. It doesnt reflect on the quality of the idea or machine....its to save the operator and passengers lives in the event of some catastrophic failure of ?? Even a broken Robbie becomes a rock...and all the way to the ground...fatally. Why not give yourself a chance of not becoming a rock. There a vid about of another one in China, so...change is coming. Whoopeee ! |
[QUOTE=Flying Binghi;9914622]"...They plan to add a ballistic parachute,..."
That shows confidence in their product..:) I'm looking forward to that Jetsons future though after somebody else works out all the bugs..:cool: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jetsons I think Cirrus is confident in its product. |
CA$A is talking about Geo-Fencing to prevent drones and non-piloted machines from operating anywhere near anything.
These drone heli-taxis, apart from the technical aspects of making them fly, haven't got a chance of operating in a built-up area. |
These drone heli-taxis, apart from the technical aspects of making them fly, haven't got a chance of operating in a built-up area. |
Originally Posted by rutan around
(Post 9916468)
Was it one of your ancestors that said this new thingy called an automobile will never beat horses because the law says a man waving a red flag must walk in front of it wherever it goes. (For safety of course)
Here's a film shot in a large Yank city before WW1 (note the lady's wearing Queen Vic era clothes) when there were likely only a dozen cars in the entire city. Note, the same cars are doing laps around the camera rig. Also note the pedestrians running helta skelta to avoid being run over by trams, cars and horse rigs. And most of the cars are right hand drive: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NINOxRxze9k I suspect we are at a similar 'confused' stage with the new fanged drone traffic..:) . |
Well, Rutan, where do you expect your UUUUber-heli-taxi to land to pick you up at your house, and to drop you at the Pitt St Mall? Your own front yard? The nearest park, full of kids?
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
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Well, Rutan, where do you expect your UUUUber-heli-taxi to land to pick you up at your house, and to drop you at the Pitt St Mall? Your own front yard? The nearest park, full of kids?
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Fujii, there has never been a rooftop helipad in Oz, and probably never will, other than those for hospitals, and they are generally on top of the carpark.
The public has rejected piloted helicopters in populated areas, and has never allowed a CBD heliport in Sydney, except for a brief period on a wharf in Darling Harbour. Many a council now has a specific policy prohibiting helicopter landings in their areas. Look at a rooftop, it is covered with mobile phone antennas, aircon units, flagpoles. The greatest rooftop helipad was Pan Am, and after the disaster when a chopper rolled over and killed people on the rooftop and a piece fell into the street and killed a pedestrian, it was shut down. Who is going to supervise an arrival/departure? No building owner will permit Joe Blow to wait on the rooftop for his Uuuuber chopper without somebody to cover their backsides for liability. In fact, nobody is allowed on ANY rooftop without massive OHS precautions, coveralls, tie-downs, fences around the edges etc. This jetson-like dream of zipping through the city streets like in 5th Element, landing on rooftops and over train stations has no chance of working in our NIMBY society. |
Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
(Post 9917122)
Fujii, there has never been a rooftop helipad in Oz, and probably never will, other than those for hospitals, and they are generally on top of the carpark.
The public has rejected piloted helicopters in populated areas, and has never allowed a CBD heliport in Sydney, except for a brief period on a wharf in Darling Harbour. Many a council now has a specific policy prohibiting helicopter landings in their areas. Look at a rooftop, it is covered with mobile phone antennas, aircon units, flagpoles. The greatest rooftop helipad was Pan Am, and after the disaster when a chopper rolled over and killed people on the rooftop and a piece fell into the street and killed a pedestrian, it was shut down. Who is going to supervise an arrival/departure? No building owner will permit Joe Blow to wait on the rooftop for his Uuuuber chopper without somebody to cover their backsides for liability. In fact, nobody is allowed on ANY rooftop without massive OHS precautions, coveralls, tie-downs, fences around the edges etc. This jetson-like dream of zipping through the city streets like in 5th Element, landing on rooftops and over train stations has no chance of working in our NIMBY society. Basing your response on helicopters doesn’t stand either. Drones aren’t helicopters. The lift system is completely different. Instead of a large main and smaller tail rotor with associated failure problems, drones have multiple lift engines and rotors with designed in redundancy. Another plus for drones is that they don’t carry hundreds of litres of flamable fuel. Your rooftop OHS argument is also flawed. Many rooftops allow persons on then without the massive OHS (now WHS) precautions. They are often referred to as observation decks and used by the public. Melbourne has a rooftop cinema. There are rooftop bars. I was on a rooftop in Starbucks in Harajuku yesterday morning. The change is coming. |
The Royal Melbourne and Royal Children’s hospitals both have a HLS on the roof. The single Darling Harbour argument doesn’t stand up Drones aren’t helicopters. The lift system is completely different Many rooftops allow persons on then without the massive OHS (now WHS) precautions. But dream on, the world needs dreamers, but get a realistic dream, not some CGI. |
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The big issue with airborne city commuters will be noise. With the increasing residential accomodation being built in the city's the last thing people will want is a swam of screaming drone traffic overhead as they sit outside sipping latte. . |
65kts is a tad over 120km/h and that’s in a straight line. That will take some beating in an urban environment.
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That will take some beating in an urban environment. |
Originally Posted by fujii
(Post 9922242)
65kts is a tad over 120km/h and that’s in a straight line. That will take some beating in an urban environment.
As to the speed of computer controlled cars them computers 'think' a lot faster then we do. I'd imagine with an all car to car computer 'talk' link a comp-car could safely operate at the vehicles limits. Here's an amusing look at some comp-car intersection possibilities: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SmJP8TdWTU This is the more likely scenario: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7_lwq3BfkY . |
Binghi, that last computer sim looks like the opening scenes of the Dick Tracy cartoons from the 60s!
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In huge cities like in Brazil...where they are into practicality over anal WHS...taxi choppers are routinely used to get across town...direct building to building top, saving great swags of time,by not battling the traffic on a circuitous route to get there.
Quieter drones will eventually be the replacement vehicle. They can have a little red flag out the front too...but to indicate slip or skid as they go. Probably have a ex Mars Robot, back on Earth after a re-fit as a "driver" |
Q What do you call blokes who think and act like this?
If traffic fines wern't a concern the average motorbike rider would find 120km/h a comfortable speed around town..:) |
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