Airventure Australia bans AvPlan from attending? Really?

[Sunfish]

i was hoping to find out about the certification process at OzKosh.

[Eljay]

I hate to say that I told you so, but as was said before, leopards don't change their spots.
What more evidence do you need?

[roundsounds]

I see the latest version of the AVA website shows RAA and APF as the organisers. Anyone know if AOPA and SAAA will be involved?
I'd really like to see the leaders of these organisations sit down together in a Q n A session for members to ask them how they will support GA into the future. They need to work together and not against each other to save GA.

[Jabawocky]

SAAA despite all their huffing and puffing have been caught out. APF seem to have returned due to SAAA being found to be erectile dysfunctional.

Or just my observation at least.

[mcoates]

It is funny that RAA and APF are now the only organisations listed as the organisers. I still however received an RAA newsletter the other day which mentioned the SAAA is still having some sort of awards at the event for the different aircraft categories so it must be they are in attendance but not organisers. I am sure lots of information will come out in the days prior, during and after the event. He said she said, repeat

[CHAIRMAN]

Just sent an email to AOPA asking why it's not even on their agenda for this year. See what the story is.
I gave up a couple of years ago on the AAA and resigned - didn't even get a phone call when I left my number.
As bad a politicians, the bloody lot of them it seems.
There's no hope unless these alphabet groups can get their act together.

[mcoates]

From accurate industry sources, AOPA and SAAA claim to have raised thousands of dollars from their members for this year's event when there was a chance that the event may not continue, but not a single cent has been passed on to the organisers.

Is this fraud ?

Or will they refund the donations or will they pass the money on to the organisers in a clear and auditable manner ?

[Jabawocky]

Not sure it is fraud, but I am VERY experienced in this thread matter. I ran the show for many years and know all the players.

SAAA and AOPA (mostly two or three individuals) have been playing silly buggers (as nice as I can put it) for some weeks.

To be frank, SAAA have screwed all the years of my hard work. I spent months, cost me 6 figure amounts (personally) and look what they have done to it. Disgraceful.

The new event organisers and RAAus along with a few helpers deserve all the support they can get. I have recently compared notes, and they have more exhibitors and more of everything, so from my view they have done a great job so far despite the wankers being.......wankers.

Make of that what you will, but I will be there with the Unicom and wandering around when not busy. Anyone wants to catch up, I look forward to it.

As for all the train wreckers......just pharque off quietly would you. Nobody cares about you. Leave the rest of us to enjoy the weekend.

[mcoates]

Well, I will be there, only ever missed one which was last year because of all the fighting that lead up to the event. Who knows, I may return again as an exhibitor if this year's event turns out well.

We do have to make sure however any money collected to support the event by organisations that are not actually organising or supporting the event has to be accounted for otherwise what is to stop anybody from starting up a go fund me page to support the Narromine event than keep the money because this is what it looks like to me from the outside.