Report of plane missing near Renmark SA
"It doesn't destroy evidence (a fire) and that type of thing so we will be again taking our time to forensically go through everything in relation to the aircraft."
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Renmark Plane Crash: RossAir crash victims confirmed as chief pilot Martin Scott, inductee pilot Paul Daw, CASA rep Stephen Guerin. #7News
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Renmark Plane Crash: RossAir crash victims confirmed as chief pilot Martin Scott, inductee pilot Paul Daw, CASA rep Stephen Guerin. #7News
Deepest sympathy to the family and friends
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Condolences to their family and friends.
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The wreckage is unfortunately "compact". You know what that means.
Not suggesting failed engine Squawk, I believe the general opinion of pilots is that simulation of EFATO in a light twin is fraught with risk. Would I be wrong in believing the stories about CASA testing officers requiring or initiating the performance of unsafe acts that have been posted on Pprune?
Even on a single, it gets your blood racing when a testing officer pulls the throttle at low altitude to simulate engine failure, it must be much worse if it is done in a twin.
Not suggesting failed engine Squawk, I believe the general opinion of pilots is that simulation of EFATO in a light twin is fraught with risk. Would I be wrong in believing the stories about CASA testing officers requiring or initiating the performance of unsafe acts that have been posted on Pprune?
Even on a single, it gets your blood racing when a testing officer pulls the throttle at low altitude to simulate engine failure, it must be much worse if it is done in a twin.
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Yeah.....I have been thinking the same thing all day, it sure sounds like another Air North Brasilia in DN type crash which took out the very guy who was implementing sim training only for the type.
Be sad if this is another similar event.
Be sad if this is another similar event.
yeah sadly a known simulated failure training issue with the garrett fixed shaft engine at low speed, if you pull that power lever back too quickly and the negative torque sensing system doesnt get it quite right and the blades go negative you have just given yourself a Vmca event. It's not an issue with a real failure since the engine winds down and the blades go course. At high speed pulling flight idle quickly you do get a bit of assymetric yaw but at high speed its not an issue.
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The ATSB states the crash happened after take off from runway 25 at Renmark.
The ATSB is investigating a fatal aircraft accident involving a Cessna Conquest 441 aircraft, registered VH-XMJ, that occurred near Renmark Airport, South Australia on 30 May 2017.
The aircraft was reportedly conducting a training flight and collided with terrain shortly after departure from runway 25. All three occupants on board were fatally injured.
The ATSB has deployed a team of five investigators to the accident site with expertise that includes aircraft operation and maintenance.
While on site the team will be examining the site and wreckage, gathering recorded data including radio and radar, and interviewing witnesses.
The ATSB will issue a preliminary report outlining the facts of the accident within 30 days and present the findings of its investigation in the final report, due out within 12 months.
The ATSB is investigating a fatal aircraft accident involving a Cessna Conquest 441 aircraft, registered VH-XMJ, that occurred near Renmark Airport, South Australia on 30 May 2017.
The aircraft was reportedly conducting a training flight and collided with terrain shortly after departure from runway 25. All three occupants on board were fatally injured.
The ATSB has deployed a team of five investigators to the accident site with expertise that includes aircraft operation and maintenance.
While on site the team will be examining the site and wreckage, gathering recorded data including radio and radar, and interviewing witnesses.
The ATSB will issue a preliminary report outlining the facts of the accident within 30 days and present the findings of its investigation in the final report, due out within 12 months.
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