Newly minted PPL out of Archerfield
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I will note that I have couched things slightly differently in each occasion. But sure, if you think what I'm trying to do is petulant, then slight variations on a theme won't change that point of view.
Another point is that the only entity who would consider renting a plane to our "newly-minted PPL" holder with nil hours on his licence, is the flying school he got it from at Archerfield.
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My experience was quite different in terms of private hire with a fresh PPL.
I with a bit under 60 hrs I went to Redcliffe and did a hour dual in a 172 (hadn't flown one prior) and they were happy for me to hire it after that.
On my return to Adelaide I did 3 circuits in a 172 with one of the flying schools at PF and was then good to go.
Admittedly that was 10yrs ago so I'm not sure if the landscape has changed since then...
I with a bit under 60 hrs I went to Redcliffe and did a hour dual in a 172 (hadn't flown one prior) and they were happy for me to hire it after that.
On my return to Adelaide I did 3 circuits in a 172 with one of the flying schools at PF and was then good to go.
Admittedly that was 10yrs ago so I'm not sure if the landscape has changed since then...
Admittedly that was 10yrs ago so I'm not sure if the landscape has changed since then...
Another point is that the only entity who would consider renting a plane to our "newly-minted PPL" holder with nil hours on his licence, is the flying school he got it from at Archerfield.
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OP, if you were willing to do the flying at Redcliffe, I know somewhere you could go where the prices are quite reasonable and the people there are nice and friendly, it's as close to a club atmosphere as you can get. PM me if you want more details.
As to your questions about RA AUS, it is indeed a 5 hour conversion course, however I wouldn't consider it converting backwards, some of the RA aircraft can be a bit of a handful to fly, you have less momentum and they don't have some of the handy design features that reduce things like adverse yaw. Plus when your aircraft only weighs 600kg any crosswind present will be felt. They are great for developing your basic flying skills. Also of the 5 hours conversion only 1 hour has to be dual. All your PPL qualifications will be recognised, however RA AUS doesn't have a CTA endorsement, so the way you get around that is by using your PPL priveleges for the CTA access. It counts for your 3 takeoff and landings. As for a AFR, if you were smart you would avoid doing one of them for the foreseeable future by adding another rating, like csu etc instead of the BFR. And passing a casa test will renew your RA AUS BFR as well.
As to your questions about RA AUS, it is indeed a 5 hour conversion course, however I wouldn't consider it converting backwards, some of the RA aircraft can be a bit of a handful to fly, you have less momentum and they don't have some of the handy design features that reduce things like adverse yaw. Plus when your aircraft only weighs 600kg any crosswind present will be felt. They are great for developing your basic flying skills. Also of the 5 hours conversion only 1 hour has to be dual. All your PPL qualifications will be recognised, however RA AUS doesn't have a CTA endorsement, so the way you get around that is by using your PPL priveleges for the CTA access. It counts for your 3 takeoff and landings. As for a AFR, if you were smart you would avoid doing one of them for the foreseeable future by adding another rating, like csu etc instead of the BFR. And passing a casa test will renew your RA AUS BFR as well.
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Thanks for that info. Really helpful. I'm quite open to all possibilities. I cannot PM you as I'm unable to receive an activation email for some reason. I'll see if I can contact the admin.
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OP, if you were willing to do the flying at Redcliffe, I know somewhere you could go where the prices are quite reasonable and the people there are nice and friendly, it's as close to a club atmosphere as you can get. PM me if you want more details.
As to your questions about RA AUS, it is indeed a 5 hour conversion course, however I wouldn't consider it converting backwards, some of the RA aircraft can be a bit of a handful to fly, you have less momentum and they don't have some of the handy design features that reduce things like adverse yaw. Plus when your aircraft only weighs 600kg any crosswind present will be felt. They are great for developing your basic flying skills. Also of the 5 hours conversion only 1 hour has to be dual. All your PPL qualifications will be recognised, however RA AUS doesn't have a CTA endorsement, so the way you get around that is by using your PPL priveleges for the CTA access. It counts for your 3 takeoff and landings. As for a AFR, if you were smart you would avoid doing one of them for the foreseeable future by adding another rating, like csu etc instead of the BFR. And passing a casa test will renew your RA AUS BFR as well.
As to your questions about RA AUS, it is indeed a 5 hour conversion course, however I wouldn't consider it converting backwards, some of the RA aircraft can be a bit of a handful to fly, you have less momentum and they don't have some of the handy design features that reduce things like adverse yaw. Plus when your aircraft only weighs 600kg any crosswind present will be felt. They are great for developing your basic flying skills. Also of the 5 hours conversion only 1 hour has to be dual. All your PPL qualifications will be recognised, however RA AUS doesn't have a CTA endorsement, so the way you get around that is by using your PPL priveleges for the CTA access. It counts for your 3 takeoff and landings. As for a AFR, if you were smart you would avoid doing one of them for the foreseeable future by adding another rating, like csu etc instead of the BFR. And passing a casa test will renew your RA AUS BFR as well.
I agree with your comments regarding LSA being more difficult ti fly than Your typical GA PA38s, C172s.
I'm interested in your info on GA at YRED.
PM me the details if you would.
Is actually not true.
It would still save him $300+ for the check-ride by sticking with the flying school who gave him the PPL. I am sure he would also receive some valuable informal advice from his previous instructors who took an interest in him and know his skills. A review of his first few flight plans would be worthwhile as well.
All of this add-on service for just sticking with the people he was with.
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