Gate to bay: pilot required?
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Gate to bay: pilot required?
Saw an SQ A330 power down at a remote bay at Mascot the other day - instead of being tugged there. My questions: (a) how often does the crew 'drive' the aircraft from the gate to the bay; and (b) when tugged, who is onboard?
a/ Almost never, Engineers tow the Jets as required.
b/ Driver in the Tug ( obviously !! ) and an approved person in the cockpit on the brakes if required in an emergency to stop the Jet.
Sunfish:----you must be joking surely? Of course they can do Engine runs!!
Engine runs with pax or crew on board require the CN to sit in a control seat.( not to run the Op but to look after any EVAC situation as it occurs )
If the ginger beers need to do an Engine run ( and they do often ) with no crew or pax on board then they obviously don't need a crew member present as they are big boys ( or girls ) and can do it on their own quite well
b/ Driver in the Tug ( obviously !! ) and an approved person in the cockpit on the brakes if required in an emergency to stop the Jet.
Sunfish:----you must be joking surely? Of course they can do Engine runs!!
Engine runs with pax or crew on board require the CN to sit in a control seat.( not to run the Op but to look after any EVAC situation as it occurs )
If the ginger beers need to do an Engine run ( and they do often ) with no crew or pax on board then they obviously don't need a crew member present as they are big boys ( or girls ) and can do it on their own quite well
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Generally: -
Flight Deck operator
PIC - Person in Charge
Tug operator
Taxi Endorsement
Aircraft Marshaller
All of the above are company approvals that any LAME/AME can and do hold. There are a number of pre-requisites for each.
Taxi movements must have minimum x 2 approved LAMEs on the flight deck.
Tow approvals must utilize 1 of each of the above. No taxi endorsement required. PIC runs the whole show. Marhalling as required.
No requirement for flight crew for any engine runs unless you need a seat filled.
Flight Deck operator
PIC - Person in Charge
Tug operator
Taxi Endorsement
Aircraft Marshaller
All of the above are company approvals that any LAME/AME can and do hold. There are a number of pre-requisites for each.
Taxi movements must have minimum x 2 approved LAMEs on the flight deck.
Tow approvals must utilize 1 of each of the above. No taxi endorsement required. PIC runs the whole show. Marhalling as required.
No requirement for flight crew for any engine runs unless you need a seat filled.
CAR 229 allows engos to taxi:
229 Aircraft not to be taxied except by pilot
(1) A person must not taxi an aircraft anywhere on an aerodrome if the person is not either a licensed pilot whose licence is endorsed for the particular type of aircraft concerned or a person approved by CASA in accordance with the terms and
conditions of the approval.
229 Aircraft not to be taxied except by pilot
(1) A person must not taxi an aircraft anywhere on an aerodrome if the person is not either a licensed pilot whose licence is endorsed for the particular type of aircraft concerned or a person approved by CASA in accordance with the terms and
conditions of the approval.
Capitan Bloggs,
I think that CAR 229 has been revised in recent times because the rule when it was written as you quoted had a major problem. It was an offence to taxi an aircraft on an aerodrome if you were not a pilot or an engo who had a taxi approval, but taxi it down an ALA and all was good....
I think that CAR 229 has been revised in recent times because the rule when it was written as you quoted had a major problem. It was an offence to taxi an aircraft on an aerodrome if you were not a pilot or an engo who had a taxi approval, but taxi it down an ALA and all was good....
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Aviator----Yes my Ops manual.
Exactly why, common sense and my employers Ops manual says I have to be present in a control seat during Engine runs with Pax on board.....it says if possible I should conduct these Engine runs.....
Happy to be corrected but I've never heard of engineers being allowed to taxi a jet
It used to be common practice but nowadays, insurance companies get a bit nervous and its also expensive to ensure that a LAME retains taxi currency on type. To be honest I would rather not have the responsibility unless i'm going to get paid extra for it.
