Qantas Recruiting
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Depends on whether you find that worse than a crew member anonymously slandering others. I'd much prefer a fellow crew member talking honestly about a subject that I've little interest in and managing that appropriately face to face than someone who tells lies behind a colleague's back and doesn't have the cojones to say anything to their face.
Every day of the week I'd take an honest crew member who tells it how it is about what they believe (even if I disagree with them) than an anonymous troll spreading lies.
I'm done reading your lies Mohikan. You can continue to attempt to malign people (and me) with your BS but I won't be reading it anymore. I'll stack my history and record here on PPRUNE (and in Qantas if you're actually a Qantas pilot) against yours anytime. Ignore list it is. My humble thanks to a good mate who reminded me of that function.
Every day of the week I'd take an honest crew member who tells it how it is about what they believe (even if I disagree with them) than an anonymous troll spreading lies.
I'm done reading your lies Mohikan. You can continue to attempt to malign people (and me) with your BS but I won't be reading it anymore. I'll stack my history and record here on PPRUNE (and in Qantas if you're actually a Qantas pilot) against yours anytime. Ignore list it is. My humble thanks to a good mate who reminded me of that function.
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Depends on whether you find that worse than a crew member anonymously slandering others.
Regardless of the subject, one needs to have sufficient SA to realise when the conversation is a one-way affair. In my personal experience, it is often those who are keen on Jesus, who are least aware of this... Just an opinion/observation and not meant to cause offence. Cheers.
Back to Qantas Recruiting?? Sorry for extending the sidetrack...
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Another clown wants to take a pot shot instead of contributing anything positive. Awesome. What a wonderful image for our airline, region and industry. 
It is important to acknowledge one of Mohikan's points. That is that there are knobs already out there- from Mohikan's numerous previous attempts it appears he or she considers me one of them.
I can't talk to past recruiting practises and their success or otherwise of preventing a 'knob' from getting through. Clearly Mohikan feels we have a few flying for us now and I'm under no illusions that the recruiting process will avoid all of them from getting an offer in the future.
The point I was making back in that earlier post was that the current recruiting process is designed to look beyond stick and rudder skills or flying hours and look to the person first. A low time Dash driver shouldn't feel significantly disadvantaged up against someone with heavy jet experience. The fact the assessment centre day occurs before the sim assessment bears that out.
So I hope those on the outside find that useful. If not, no harm done.
It is important to acknowledge one of Mohikan's points. That is that there are knobs already out there- from Mohikan's numerous previous attempts it appears he or she considers me one of them.
I can't talk to past recruiting practises and their success or otherwise of preventing a 'knob' from getting through. Clearly Mohikan feels we have a few flying for us now and I'm under no illusions that the recruiting process will avoid all of them from getting an offer in the future.
The point I was making back in that earlier post was that the current recruiting process is designed to look beyond stick and rudder skills or flying hours and look to the person first. A low time Dash driver shouldn't feel significantly disadvantaged up against someone with heavy jet experience. The fact the assessment centre day occurs before the sim assessment bears that out.
So I hope those on the outside find that useful. If not, no harm done.
So how do you actually not recruit so-called knobs?
From what I have experienced the these types tend to be technically proficient, knowing everything, usually have a good skill set and often highly qualified just seeming to lack empathy or an ability to fit in socially. Others actually have had diagnosed pysch conditions
In this day and age digging to much into their background or preferences in an interview is nigh impossible as everything is off limits because of discrimination. Military can get away with it because they can do whatever they like but not so for civy street.
In short the only way would be with a exhaustive Pysch Test and a followup interview with a properly train Psychologist. Somehow I don't think any airline in Australia is willing to spend that sort of money, so how do you go about ruling out people who are otherwise perfectly acceptable?
I'll add to that we actually have to define what a knob is, just being Puritanical, much to some of the posters above disliking, I don't think would rule you out of a job.
From what I have experienced the these types tend to be technically proficient, knowing everything, usually have a good skill set and often highly qualified just seeming to lack empathy or an ability to fit in socially. Others actually have had diagnosed pysch conditions
In this day and age digging to much into their background or preferences in an interview is nigh impossible as everything is off limits because of discrimination. Military can get away with it because they can do whatever they like but not so for civy street.
In short the only way would be with a exhaustive Pysch Test and a followup interview with a properly train Psychologist. Somehow I don't think any airline in Australia is willing to spend that sort of money, so how do you go about ruling out people who are otherwise perfectly acceptable?
I'll add to that we actually have to define what a knob is, just being Puritanical, much to some of the posters above disliking, I don't think would rule you out of a job.
So how do you actually not recruit so-called knobs?
Or also called a "cadetship"
But in all seriousness I've heard plenty of tales of people who started their careers being regarded as generally good people who changed into the so called "knob" type over time, so maybe it's not something that can be discovered at the recruitment stage. I've also heard of "knobs" who've pulled their heads in and changed their behaviour over time so it works both ways
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10 a month for foreseeable future was one rumour from a couple of weeks back.
That's contrary to the previously stated public requirement for 170 over 3 years.
I hadn't heard anything official so didn't post it previously.
That's contrary to the previously stated public requirement for 170 over 3 years.
I hadn't heard anything official so didn't post it previously.
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This is a personal assessment of the info. Have heard nothing official- or unofficial. This is just my reading of how many cadets, LOI holders, etc.
IF the 10 a month turns out to be true then we'd are looking at externals with start dates about April/ May next year. So perhaps opening up applications in December/ January.
If it's a rumour and doesn't come off then that will slide back towards applications in April/ May and starts in August/ September next year. The annual results announcement on August 23 should give a bit more insight.
IF the 10 a month turns out to be true then we'd are looking at externals with start dates about April/ May next year. So perhaps opening up applications in December/ January.
If it's a rumour and doesn't come off then that will slide back towards applications in April/ May and starts in August/ September next year. The annual results announcement on August 23 should give a bit more insight.
