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Old 17th Jun 2016, 13:04
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Holy s!ht a dude paid 5 million for a toy and had to pay .1% for the batteries!!! Oh the humanity!
Of course Dick can afford it but he objects because he is not an idiot and recognizes a rip off when he sees one.

I'm not so sure about Plazbot and Atlas Shrugged. Scaling Dick's assets down to yours would you pay $27.50 for say a can of coca cola ? I'm sure you could afford it but would you buy? If you just shrugged your shoulders and paid up it says a lot about your fiscal astuteness.
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Old 18th Jun 2016, 08:01
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Perhaps so but would you pay $27.50 for it?
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Old 18th Jun 2016, 08:13
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If a can of Coke was considered safety equipment that could save my life, yeah I would pay that much.

But, a can of Coke is not, therefore your comparison is somewhat invalid. Apples, oranges, all that kind of thing.
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Old 18th Jun 2016, 12:21
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If a can of Coke was considered safety equipment that could save my life, yeah I would pay that much.
Whether a can of coke is safety equipment or not it is still only worth a couple of bucks. Therefore it should only cost a couple of bucks whether it is safety equipment or not. Do you blokes work for CASA? Your attitude indicates that you do. Just bellow SAFETY and stuff the cost . NEVER EVER check that the cost is justified or that a better alternative might be found.
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Yeah bro, I work for CASA. What's your rego?
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Old 18th Jun 2016, 17:07
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Plazbot. Knowing you I LOL'ed at that!
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Old 18th Jun 2016, 22:25
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What's your rego?
Just for now I'm using yours. Don't worry too much. It's just while I'm using Cairns between 10am and 2pm. It's only $240 for a 600kg aircraft. It's a safety thing so I know you won't care what it costs.
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How much of the 6k was freight Dick?
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Old 20th Jun 2016, 03:53
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Yes I too wonder what the freight cost is. Care to provide a breakdown at all Dick?

I'm wondering where the real "problem" lies. Maybe a ripoff freight quote? Maybe if Dick had a life raft that could be serviced in Aus it would be cheaper for him?

Rutan, I'd happily pay $27.50 for a Coke each time Dick pays $6000 to get a life raft serviced at the required interval. That would be a fairer comparison.

Like I said in my first post, how often do you do flights that require the carriage of a life raft Dick? I still suggest looking at borrowing/renting/hiring one from another crowd if you don't need one all that often. Or is that too much common sense and you'd rather have a whinge about the cost of getting yours serviced instead?
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Old 23rd Jun 2016, 16:48
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Freight was about $1000.

When I purchased the life raft in Wichita there was a service agent in Australia.

That agency closed down. That's the point I am making. Once an industry gets below a certain efficiency of scale it's doomed.

As I said. Get out while you can. The fact the that it's claimed that the Deputy Director of the Department believes GA is viable in Australia shows the power to self delude .
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Dick I did yesterday.
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 11:27
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Whether Dick happens to have enough funds in his personal bank account, is not the issue.

The issue raised is that almost all new rules and regulations incur incredibly high expenses, affecting everyone in GA.
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Old 26th Jun 2016, 00:42
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The issue raised is that almost all new rules and regulations incur incredibly high expenses, affecting everyone in GA.
Runaway Gun is absolutely right
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Re #20,

"The "CASA OLC Determination" was that one was mandatory, the second one was an offense, dangerous good, the subject of the threatened action against the pilot.
The additional "dangerous good" due "undeclared pressurised gasses" only came to CASA's attention because the aircraft ditched, one raft was punctured by a part of the damaged but temporally floating aircraft, so he used his backup raft. "

"Undeclared pressurised gasses" - undeclared to WHOM??

The operator? The PIC? The loading agent? (Who was no doubt, the PIC)

The operator of this aeroplane and the PIC was the pilot flying....no..??

Therefore the PIC had full knowledge of the carriage of both the 'required by regulation' raft, and the 'backup' raft.
Whether it was written on a piece of paper or not....

Are the 'rooles' now saying that one has to provide a full manifest to oneself for all items carried aboard a flight when 'oneself' is the ONLY occupant....
chewing gum - 2 packs.
navbag - 1
maps and charts - several
pencils - 2 (in case one breaks and I can't find the sharpener)
pencil sharpener - 1 (Oh hang on - that could be construed as a sharp weapon - to be used on myself no doubt....)

Obviously, I just do NOT 'get the point'......

Feckin rooles and the interpretation thereof.... BAH HUMBUG!!
Gross negligence and plain old harassment on the part of 'The regulator' more like it ???.....

No Cheers

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Old 26th Jun 2016, 04:51
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I would imagine the Winslow accredited Service organisation closed down because it was not viable.

Same with Collins and Honewell.

It's like a cancer setting in. And I understand Mr Skidmore believes the GA industry is doing well - or that's what he has been told by some in the industry.

As I have said. Probably at least another decade of destruction before any changes take place. The new board has been there for over a year and things have continued to get worse.
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Old 2nd Jul 2016, 10:42
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As posted by Progressive , UTC have a facility in Melbourne and they can do your raft . I have had 3 done this year
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hung start wrote today:

"As posted by Progressive, UTC have a facility in Melbourne and they can do your raft . I have had 3 done this year"

Progressive's informative post was #2 in this thread.

So are you really reading, Dick? Or just using your comment as yet another reason to have a GA whinge?
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