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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 06:39
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The benefits of reduced separation standards due to ADS-B across the country outside radar coverage isn't something that is readily apparent to operators.

They are flying closer and level changes can be accommodated far more readily than was possible using pre-ADS-B procedural separation.

Flex tracks & UPRs are often vastly different from the published route structure which just tend to be fairly similar to Great Circle tracks, so the benefits of flex tracks & UPRs to operators have been significant.

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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 08:43
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Midnight,

The benefits of reduced separation standards due to ADS-B across the country outside radar coverage isn't something that is readily apparent to operators.
On the contrary, it is very apparent to the analysis of major operators, who have a continuous dialog with various CNS/ATM providers, if it is there.

They are flying closer and level changes can be accommodated far more readily than was possible using pre-ADS-B procedural separation.
Theoretically true, but in practice, the difference between AUSEP standards and ADS-B has not been apparent, as there is just not enough traffic over most of the Australian FIRs to make a difference.

For the short distances of the major routes BNE-SYD-MEL, it's hardly applicable, but RVSM did make a measurable difference in costs.

Flex tracks & UPRs are often vastly different from the published route structure which just tend to be fairly similar to Great Circle tracks, so the benefits of flex tracks & UPRs to operators have been significant.
True, but not necessarily dependent on ADS-B.

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Old 22nd Apr 2016, 13:02
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The continued introduction of more flex tracks and UPRs is dependent on ADS-B.
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 17:55
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Is there any measurable safety improvement to come from the GA $30 million ADSB mandate coming in next February ?

What safety issue are they addressing ?
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 19:19
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Is there any measurable safety improvement to come from the GA $30 million ADSB mandate coming in next February ?

What safety issue are they addressing ?
Just imagine it's 2022 and Australia doesn't have ADSB. Then just take whatever anecdotal evidence you would use while you're on your high horse touting how amazing and safe the American system was and how we're all doomed to die due to the regulator not implementing it.
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 22:17
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I thought the AOPA Project Eureka concept was OK.

That is our mandate follows that of the USA but comes in 12 months later so Australia can get the benefit from the lowest cost equipment.
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Old 30th May 2016, 15:52
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Lower priced solution?

Maybe this is the price drop you have been waiting for........

ACSS Offers ADS-B Solution For Legacy Corporate Aircraft - Press Releases
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Old 31st May 2016, 15:59
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I note a CJ3 is not on the list!!
As for "price drop", Progressive, old mate, you certainly have a sense of humour.
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Old 1st Jun 2016, 05:40
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Textron Aviation CitationJet....I believe this covers the whole family......CJ1, CJ2 etc.

As for price...only a quote will tell
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Old 1st Jun 2016, 06:10
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Just imagine it's 2022 and Australia doesn't have ADSB.
Yep, I can imagine that. Where's the problem? I'd be richer and as a GA IFR aircraft owner operator my safety will not be degraded one iota.

ADS-B is a tax on private IFR flying.
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Old 1st Jun 2016, 07:10
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I have one of Australia's top techs, Brad Granger of Pacific , working on a price now
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Old 1st Jun 2016, 15:40
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I believe this covers the whole family......CJ1, CJ2 etc.
Progressive,
The way I read it, that (along with a few competitors) is only for "legacy" installations, not the integrated Garmin cockpits of the Rockwell Collins later ProLine equivalent.
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