Aviation Political issues for Election 2016
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With respect to B772's question regarding the adoption of NZ rules can anyone tell me of any constitutional/legal constraints which prevent this? I understand there are, regarding the adoption of FAA rules. I work with NZ rules very often in the maintenance area and find them to be (comparatively) clear and concise. Projects like developing Part 91,135 etc would be complete and at minimal cost compared to what we continue to endure. I've no doubt one rejoinder will be "we will need to Australianise them." But why? Is it too hard for us to admit that, maybe, the "bro's" have done it better? Our system is going backwards and harmonisation is a joke. Adoption of Kiwi rules could ultimately save the industry untold money and a lot of us considerable angst. Heaven forbid, CASA themselves might even be able to understand the rules. Cheers, 30/30
30/30 Green Light, no real reason I suspect except "Ego". If CASA did adopt the Kiwi Regs they'd also have to admit what a massive FUBAR they've committed for over a decade now!
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The LNP only vote for their party.
The ALP only vote against the NLP.
One consequence of this phenomena is demonstrated in last elections 730,000 informal votes, where those constituents didn't see anyone worthy to give their vote to. I'll wager this coming election will see this number trip over one million.
Now if someone could harness this powerful group... One box above the line marked Informal Party. Much neater.
The ALP only vote against the NLP.
One consequence of this phenomena is demonstrated in last elections 730,000 informal votes, where those constituents didn't see anyone worthy to give their vote to. I'll wager this coming election will see this number trip over one million.
Now if someone could harness this powerful group... One box above the line marked Informal Party. Much neater.
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One box above the line marked Informal Party. Much neater.
That's bloody inspired!
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If you want to make change, the MP's are not the focal point. The government departments run their ministers, not the other way around.This is why we are having trouble telling the two majors apart.
Time to have a clean out, of the bureaucrats that is.
Time to have a clean out, of the bureaucrats that is.
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From Tim Blair blog;
Analysis by The Weekend Australian has revealed that more than 44 per cent of voters, almost 6.4 million people, are either public sector employees (1.89 million) or wholly dependent on federal government pensions, allowances and parenting payments (4.48 million). The figure grows further when private sector workers who receive more in welfare than they pay in tax are added …
ANU researcher Ben Phillips estimated that only 43 per cent of the adult population excluding public sector workers were net taxpayers last year, bringing the actual total voter-dependency ratio to well over 50 per cent.
We live in a bureaucracy, not a democracy!
Analysis by The Weekend Australian has revealed that more than 44 per cent of voters, almost 6.4 million people, are either public sector employees (1.89 million) or wholly dependent on federal government pensions, allowances and parenting payments (4.48 million). The figure grows further when private sector workers who receive more in welfare than they pay in tax are added …
ANU researcher Ben Phillips estimated that only 43 per cent of the adult population excluding public sector workers were net taxpayers last year, bringing the actual total voter-dependency ratio to well over 50 per cent.
We live in a bureaucracy, not a democracy!
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We live in a bureaucracy, not a democracy!
Clive Palmer and his brilliant management of the Townsville nickle mine for the private sector and CASA for the public sector.
Both of these should be held up as scary lessons showing what happens when lilly livered law makers sit on their hands and do nothing.
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I agree with Jaba,
everyone thinks the British TV show "Yes Minister" is a comedy, in reality its a documentary.
Australian "mandarins" have taken the finest of British bureaucracy and refined it into an art form.
everyone thinks the British TV show "Yes Minister" is a comedy, in reality its a documentary.
Australian "mandarins" have taken the finest of British bureaucracy and refined it into an art form.
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The only way to achieve anything in the coming election is to be organised and concentrate on one Liberal/National (in this case)politician. Put up one major item and hammer it day after day after day. Use the press, radio, TV, facebook, signage etc and just overpower them.
I'm involved in just such a campaign right now on a State issue which seems to be having traction. It takes money, organisation, time and dedication. The campaign must concentrate on one matter only.
If we are going to get organised it will have to be soon. You need a registered organisation for insurance and cash handling, a very good committee and persons skilled in using the press, internet and producing content as well as a very good front man. Expect and anticipate every possible dirty trick from your local pollies support team. They are experts at playing the man, not the ball
If all that can't be met and in place within a couple of weeks from now, don't bother. The reality is that if the Industry was serious about running a real campaign,it should have been organised by the end of last year.
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I'm involved in just such a campaign right now on a State issue which seems to be having traction. It takes money, organisation, time and dedication. The campaign must concentrate on one matter only.
If we are going to get organised it will have to be soon. You need a registered organisation for insurance and cash handling, a very good committee and persons skilled in using the press, internet and producing content as well as a very good front man. Expect and anticipate every possible dirty trick from your local pollies support team. They are experts at playing the man, not the ball
If all that can't be met and in place within a couple of weeks from now, don't bother. The reality is that if the Industry was serious about running a real campaign,it should have been organised by the end of last year.
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The reality is that if the Industry was serious about running a real campaign,it should have been organised by the end of last year.
CASA's divide and conquer policy has worked so well that hardly anyone can see it. If you don't believe me just ask yourself, why has such a small industry got so many organisations? Why can none of them agree on anything? Why do so many of them rely on exemptions to the regulations? More poignantly why do so many have CASA friendly board members? Why are there so many different and opposing opinions on Prune regarding the regulator?
Rest in pieces general aviation, been fun knowing you.
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Yes, a room full of Alpha Males/females deciding what's best for me.
Apathy is a curse, but I don't care any more.
Apathy is a curse, but I don't care any more.
Aussie Bob is right. Divide and rule, herding cats, etc.
I am facing this in another arena - a sporting club that needs new investment and even has 5 million donation towards the redevelopment!
However it faces exactly the same challenges to some extent:
- a reactionary faction that wants to retreat to the way the club was in the 1950's when they were young - they keep posting old newspaper articles on Facebook!
- Retired folks who are scared of rising subscript costs.
- Commercial axe grinders who see money for themselves if the development is either thwarted or completed (Two groups).
- The staff and their friends who are concerned for their careers.
- The "do it yourself" brigade who hate professional builders. They always also have a friend in the trade who can do it for half price.
- The acquired irrelevancy disease syndrome sufferers (AIDS) - retired engineers/architects/real estate agents/champions,, etc. who are miffed that they have not been consulted and are not part of the project.
- The single issue groupies.
- Self made men who built their own businesses and don't understand why their word isn't law anymore.
- The "process queens" who believe that everything will be rosy if we follow their long and involved pet management process - and will sabotage every thing else to prove it.
For free you can have the Sunfish Peak Body Construction Process - SPBCP (™)
1. Town meeting - everybody gets to vent, once.
2. Steering Committee summarises issues and gets agreement to them at Town meeting. Venting then prohibited.
3. SC works out vision and mission statement and publishes in newsletter.
4. SC and consultants if necessary do a SWOT analysis, develop options with pros and cons.
5. Options put in a working paper to members. Constructive comments invited
6. Town meeting to consider and adopt ONE option.
Commitee then gets on with the job armed with a vision, mission, and a clear mandate from the members.
I am facing this in another arena - a sporting club that needs new investment and even has 5 million donation towards the redevelopment!
However it faces exactly the same challenges to some extent:
- a reactionary faction that wants to retreat to the way the club was in the 1950's when they were young - they keep posting old newspaper articles on Facebook!
- Retired folks who are scared of rising subscript costs.
- Commercial axe grinders who see money for themselves if the development is either thwarted or completed (Two groups).
- The staff and their friends who are concerned for their careers.
- The "do it yourself" brigade who hate professional builders. They always also have a friend in the trade who can do it for half price.
- The acquired irrelevancy disease syndrome sufferers (AIDS) - retired engineers/architects/real estate agents/champions,, etc. who are miffed that they have not been consulted and are not part of the project.
- The single issue groupies.
- Self made men who built their own businesses and don't understand why their word isn't law anymore.
- The "process queens" who believe that everything will be rosy if we follow their long and involved pet management process - and will sabotage every thing else to prove it.
For free you can have the Sunfish Peak Body Construction Process - SPBCP (™)
1. Town meeting - everybody gets to vent, once.
2. Steering Committee summarises issues and gets agreement to them at Town meeting. Venting then prohibited.
3. SC works out vision and mission statement and publishes in newsletter.
4. SC and consultants if necessary do a SWOT analysis, develop options with pros and cons.
5. Options put in a working paper to members. Constructive comments invited
6. Town meeting to consider and adopt ONE option.
Commitee then gets on with the job armed with a vision, mission, and a clear mandate from the members.
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A profound post, Sunny.
It follows on nicely from Aussie Bob's analysis of the situation that's been allowed to develop over the past couple of decades or so.
The sporting club analogy is also a good one - I've experienced the same myself while wasting my time with volunteer bodies..
Of course your positive example, the SPBCP, has much merit.
I insist on a similar process myself if I'm to contribute my expertise and time to a project - otherwise, work it out yourselves, I've got better things to do.
It'll be interesting to see what Ben Morgan's (Aviation Advertiser) meeting/rally at Tamworth next week can produce.
More power to your elbow, Ben.
It follows on nicely from Aussie Bob's analysis of the situation that's been allowed to develop over the past couple of decades or so.
The sporting club analogy is also a good one - I've experienced the same myself while wasting my time with volunteer bodies..
Of course your positive example, the SPBCP, has much merit.
I insist on a similar process myself if I'm to contribute my expertise and time to a project - otherwise, work it out yourselves, I've got better things to do.
It'll be interesting to see what Ben Morgan's (Aviation Advertiser) meeting/rally at Tamworth next week can produce.
More power to your elbow, Ben.
