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@Mr Milk - what red dye in the hub do you mean?
There seemed to be a trail of similar fluid on the ground. The only fluids I can think of in a Cessna are Avgas, engine oil and brake fluid?
The fluid was red (wrong colour for oil), to heavy for fuel and appeared to be the right consistency for hydraulic fluid. The trail on the ground were blobs about the size of 50 cent coins spaced about 30cm apart for maybe 50 metres.
The fluid seems the same color as the stuff on the front of the cowl.
Not a big deal, just curious.
@gerry111 - I've got no idea who this squawk person is and don't care.
There seemed to be a trail of similar fluid on the ground. The only fluids I can think of in a Cessna are Avgas, engine oil and brake fluid?
The fluid was red (wrong colour for oil), to heavy for fuel and appeared to be the right consistency for hydraulic fluid. The trail on the ground were blobs about the size of 50 cent coins spaced about 30cm apart for maybe 50 metres.
The fluid seems the same color as the stuff on the front of the cowl.
Not a big deal, just curious.
@gerry111 - I've got no idea who this squawk person is and don't care.
As pointed out previously it is not MIL-H-5606, most McCauley Propellers are dye filled .....
http://www.mccauley.textron.com/MPC26OWrev1.pdf
On oil-filled propellers, the hub cavity is partially filled with red dyed engine type oil which is sealed in the hub and isolated from engine oil. This oil provides lubrication and corrosion protection to blade bearings and other internal parts. The oil is dyed red to aid in the troubleshooting of suspected propeller leaks
http://www.mccauley.textron.com/MPC26OWrev1.pdf
On oil-filled propellers, the hub cavity is partially filled with red dyed engine type oil which is sealed in the hub and isolated from engine oil. This oil provides lubrication and corrosion protection to blade bearings and other internal parts. The oil is dyed red to aid in the troubleshooting of suspected propeller leaks
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Squawk7700 - Are you saying there was only a 12kt wind from 090 or was it 12kts of xwind at the time..? (It was a fairly stiff easterly where I was further down the peninsula).
Either way, certainly not beyond the capabilities of the aircraft. Its hard to understand how things could go so wrong, although there's no doubt that executing xwing landings is a degradable skill, which you can get pretty rusty at if not practiced regularly. (Unless he did in fact get hit by a 'freak' gust of wind as reported).
So lucky they all escaped relatively unharmed. Shame to see PCO gone, it was a nice A/C, but at least no one was seriously hurt or worse.
Either way, certainly not beyond the capabilities of the aircraft. Its hard to understand how things could go so wrong, although there's no doubt that executing xwing landings is a degradable skill, which you can get pretty rusty at if not practiced regularly. (Unless he did in fact get hit by a 'freak' gust of wind as reported).
So lucky they all escaped relatively unharmed. Shame to see PCO gone, it was a nice A/C, but at least no one was seriously hurt or worse.
Geez, lucky it didn't catch fire. AirServices put the Fire station at Ballina, not bloody Tooradin!
Are you saying there was only a 12kt wind from 090 or was it 12kts of xwind at the time..?
The nearest weather station is Cerberus and the observation for there was as follows:,
Therefore, 7 knots gusting 12, although it felt like a consistent 12 at the airfield. I don't recall it lulling to 7 knots; you'd notice that. Albiet, Cerberus is not Tooradin.
AirServices put the Fire station at Ballina, not bloody Tooradin!
AMSA were also on the phone within minutes as the beacon went off due to the impact. (Where's Leadsled, this one actually worked!!!) 3 ambulances arrived one by one within 20 minutes or so. It's good to know that the system works should you need it.!
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the beacon went off due to the impact. (Where's Leadsled, this one actually worked!!!)
Most crashes don't get that chance.
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When you live....
In the background is an old ship - the runway is pretty much halfway between the ship and where the a/c came to rest. It's track, as opposed to heading, looks to be along the runway 04.
Lucky escape for the skydivers sitting in the aircraft with prop turning - one to the right and theyd have been in trouble.
Lucky escape for the skydivers sitting in the aircraft with prop turning - one to the right and theyd have been in trouble.
There is almost always xwind at Tooradin.
I reckon this is all bull****. A poorly executed xwind landing with a belated attempt to go around far too late is my guess. No way to get that far left to smash through the ramp area at Tooradin without lots going pear shaped well before the event.
In a C182 with some mass and inertia xwind landings would be far easier than a Aeroprakt Foxbat or a Texan, two LSA's that regularly operate at Tooradin with no problems.
I say the PIC simply screwed the pooch, plain and simple.
Glad everyone got out ok.
Sad for the aircraft owners who got their aircraft wrecked.
I reckon this is all bull****. A poorly executed xwind landing with a belated attempt to go around far too late is my guess. No way to get that far left to smash through the ramp area at Tooradin without lots going pear shaped well before the event.
In a C182 with some mass and inertia xwind landings would be far easier than a Aeroprakt Foxbat or a Texan, two LSA's that regularly operate at Tooradin with no problems.
I say the PIC simply screwed the pooch, plain and simple.
Glad everyone got out ok.
Sad for the aircraft owners who got their aircraft wrecked.
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The two main wind socks at Tooraddin are either side of the runway, about half way down.
One is near the sky divers office, the other towards the old ship. Both are yellow. The one near the ship is worn and half-missing.
Wonder if the tattered windsock and proximity of the parked planes to the runway will be a liability issue?
One is near the sky divers office, the other towards the old ship. Both are yellow. The one near the ship is worn and half-missing.
Wonder if the tattered windsock and proximity of the parked planes to the runway will be a liability issue?
What about big yellow windsock right next to the runway adjacent the Bristow helicopter terminal taxiway, right there on the right-hand side of runway 04, perhaps 300 metres down the runway?
You could not have a better placed windsock for an informed landing on 04.
You could not have a better placed windsock for an informed landing on 04.
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