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Old 18th Mar 2016, 11:58
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A C172 cruising @ 124kt. That's one very impressive aircraft!!!

My suggestion would be, as previously mentioned, a late model C182 with fixed gear. Heaps of payload, 145kt TAS and extra good range with full tanks. You might even be able to find a G1000 fitout. Most likely you'll need a leak before it needs a drink.
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 12:38
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Kyle, What's the rush - Slow down and smell the roses! You have a need for good hours - not speed.

When you use a less 'capable' aircraft, it means you'll have to flight plan more carefully, the weather changes will be more numerous, and you'll gain more experience. In any case 142 for a 206, 124 for a 172, 180 for a T182RG?? ha,ha! No chance you can plan on these numbers. Use something tried and trusted that will give you a reliable TAS at a repeatable fuel burn.

As an owner of 12 aircraft, over a 40 year period, I'd never think of renting an aircraft out to someone who was low time, and I knew nothing about. You need to ask about, talk to owners, even ask them to fly with you and demonstrate your reliability, maybe do a few local flights in their aircraft. What you have planned is a big trip, and any private owner would have to think hard about renting even a simple C172 to a low timer for it.

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A C172 cruising @ 124kt. That's one very impressive aircraft!!!
Certainly one very impressive C172
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Old 19th Mar 2016, 04:13
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The problem is that you want a totally a new aircraft, the owner will want you to have some quality hours ( usually 10) in one before they will rent it to you - I suggest you take the trip in an aircraft similar to what you have been training in - i.e. if a warrior but you have a retract and csu rating then rent an Arrow. If you haven't done quite a few circuits in a cessna 182 you will find it doesnt take much effort to crunch the nose wheel down etc.

To take an aircraft on a long trip for a week or so you will need to find an organisation that has the relevant aircraft but is commercially quiet and needs the rental time. You will have to impress them with your airmanship and risk profile - if they like you it will be easy, but that usually means they know you.
Low hour PPL's are risky for the owners - you will need to demonstrate to them that you are entirely safe!. For me on my first few long trips away my own, I had to make a real effort to not cut corners, do all my weather checks and planning meticulously etc.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 02:31
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"that would be one long slow boring trip in a 172"
With almost a PPL and complaining about the possibility of a long trip in C172 being boring suggests you may be aiming for the wrong profession. With your level of experience "Excitement" will inevitably come your way - in aviation you don't have to go looking for it
Crossing the Pacific is a long boring trip if you are lucky. You will learn that boring is beautiful - if you are really bored you have probably overlooked something.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 03:05
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You might be well-served calculating how much a flight hour is worth to you (if you have any desire to build hours at all) and factoring that in.

EG at my aero club they had a 152 for XX and a warrior for xx+20%... the warrior is 20% quicker but that just means that I get fewer hours for the same dollars, or for the same trip.
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Old 21st Mar 2016, 08:34
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With almost a PPL and complaining about the possibility of a long trip in C172 being boring suggests you may be aiming for the wrong profession.
Not sure if that is a fair statement. I LOVE flying, and I also love Driving sporty cars, but driving for hours on a straight highway for me gets boring, as with cruising on AP. I love hands on flying. Surely other airline pilots feel the same?

That doesnt mean im not excited about the tip. The idea of flying myself across the country i find amazingly exciting, and im sure when im cruising there will be many beautiful things to see. And flying to new airports is going to also be a great experience. For me its the take off, landings, and the safe completion of a trip that gives me a sense of satisfaction and enjoyment.

You will learn that boring is beautiful
Your right, i have had some very gentle and amazingly rewarding flights gliding, and also during my training.

I guess its just ive driven this trip many times, and those long hours on the road suck. I guess this is why i first wanted to do this trip as fast as possible. But the advice in this thread has really helped me realise i should treat this as an opportunity to build hours and gain experience.

AreaRuleAce I'm still waiting for a mod to fix my PM, will send message you soon as its sorted
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