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Old 27th Sep 2015, 21:24
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Come on! 'Going down with guns blazing' - it's not the Eureka stockade, no matter how much people like to see themselves as beleaguered victims. The options are:

a) Throw the whole system out and start again (not going to happen even in anyone's wildest dreams);

b) Work within the system to change it;

c) Carry on with a bunch of rhetoric (the preferred option here it seems).
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 21:29
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a) Throw the whole system out and start again

This is the ONLY viable option.

We all know it.

CASA know it.

The Government knows it.

Grow some balls and DO IT!
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 22:41
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The idea of working with this unworkable system is like collaborating with the Nazi's. The "Resistance" in both cases is very unforgiving.
If you prefer I be less dramatic, I would say there is a general reckless determination and acceptance of being hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

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Old 28th Sep 2015, 06:10
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Window dressing....??

Is this just yet another .."seen to be doing something" ?

WHAT's TO SAY, FFS. ???

Its been said time and again for decades and it all goes nowhere.
CAsA is a basket case, is a basket case, is a basket case...now and ..forever ???

The INDUSTRY wants and desperately needs change, the Trough Dwellers at 16 Furzer St CB, dont,..just a bigger trough

Dept of Transport aint interested in any oversight and the passing parade of Miniscules dont know jack about the Industry or its problems with the "Regulator" (sic...very sick)

And for AOTW...there are some recent/current issues out of that infamous CNS office that you wouldnt believe as fiction.
You are just fortunate its not a 'job' being done on yourself, because when it is you will have one VERY different perspective of how the CAsA "system" works. Hope yr luck holds.!
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:13
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Me too, mate. For now I'm continuing with my policy of trying to work legally and with integrity. Maybe I'll come up against someone who is out to get me for some reason, hope not.

While I never claim to not make a few mistakes, though, it still has to be said there are plenty out there who knowingly overfly servicings, flog machines outside their limits, go against manufacturer's recommendations etc - this to me is false economy and a set up for accidents, but they still do it. It's not all honest law abiding citizens being screwed over by the evil empire, is it?
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 22:14
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AOTW:

While I never claim to not make a few mistakes, though, it still has to be said there are plenty out there who knowingly overfly servicings, flog machines outside their limits, go against manufacturer's recommendations etc - this to me is false economy and a set up for accidents, but they still do it. It's not all honest law abiding citizens being screwed over by the evil empire, is it?
With the greatest of respect, Bollocks. So there are "plenty" who break the law? If that is the case, where is your evidence? Where are the court cases? Where is the statistically significant evidence from the ATSB that non compliance with maintenance and operational regulation is the proximal cause of machine failure and resulting accidents?

Please note, I don't want anecdotal one offs, I want statistically significant analysis proving the hypothesis that "Plenty" are knowingly putting passenger lives at risk.

But wait, there is more. Why should industry tolerate an organisation that:

(a) writes the rules in the most obtuse, impenetrable and non precise way possible, so as to allow

(b) The interpretation of said rules by itself according to its whims, and

C Gets to decide how to enforce those rules on a highly selective and arbitrary basis, and,

(d) Decides, on the basis of bias and personal whim how to punish the alleged offenders.

Why should we tolerate that??

To put that another way; would australian society tolerate a policeman that:

(1) Decides he doesn't like the colour of your car and the music you are playing.

(2) Pulls you over and alleges you are speeding with no, or contradictory, evidence,

(3) Anyway, decides to give your car a "roadworthy" and surprise! Finds a worn wiper blade rubber.

(4) when you refuse to lick his boots as requested, decides that an appropriate penalty is to tie you to the nearest tree and flog you to death with a bicycle chain?

That is what CASA is capable of doing. Read the Forsyth report.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 22:46
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Please note, I don't want anecdotal one offs, I want statistically significant analysis proving the hypothesis that "Plenty" are knowingly putting passenger lives at risk.
I'll just nip away and produce a detailed report!
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 23:28
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Hopefully that is a metaphorical flogging with a bike chain.
Or is it a satirical one?
None the less, your local CAsA team must really suck.
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 06:06
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No prizes for guessing the motivation to finally register and post on PPRuNe, I was even going to use the name CASA Fat Cat but thought that would be taken for sure! I'm another who hung up the David Clark's when Part 61 et. al. came out.

To business:

The Government's response to the Forsyth report (The Aviation Safety Regulation Review Report) states in response to Recommendation 8a (that CASA publishes KPIs for service delivery functions) that:

"CASA has already commenced publishing monthly Service Delivery Statistics on its website, and will continue to do so."

Available on CASA's website is:

Service Request Statistics (https://www.casa.gov.au/services/sta...est-statistics), and

Service Delivery Statistics (https://www.casa.gov.au/services/sta...ery-statistics)

Now, even to an MBA graduate it's got to be obvious that neither of these are statistics. There are lots of "Service Target" numbers, but (surprisingly) there are no actuals under the "Average Processing Time" columns.

So, who should we contact in CASA to ask for their statistics page to be updated
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